Everything here is false, it does not help me out at all. Its all part of the deception to get peopke like yourself to support there socialists agenda.
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Everything here is false, it does not help me out at all. Its all part of the deception to get peopke like yourself to support there socialists agenda.
If a socialist agenda gives health care to all our citizens, then I guess I am one, and so are nearly every first world country...ok, some searching found 33 developed countries, and 32 of them have a form of universal health care. It lowers the cost of health care, and everyone is covered, no insurance to deal with... why do you hate it so much on principle? It seems to me a win win. Does it matter what label you slap on it? I have health insurance, and I probably can pay for it after I retire, but if we all can have coverage, especially for the same or less than what we are already paying, why not?
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Your logic is sound and I agree. Your belief that everything is as it seems is flawed.
Just take care of your colon my friend. It is pretty handy to have a healthy one and a nightmare if it isn't.
Got another call from the CDC today. They went back 6 months concerning my travels, surgeries, cancer, antibiotics and probiotics.
Oh well. I didn't eat any romaine.
Oh well. I didn't eat any romaine.
Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
Aviva Chomsky. Noam Chomsky's daughter...
Lol. I'm sure she has no agenda.
If you truly believe that the US can't even produce enough food to affordably feed itself without resorting to nearly slave labor in the form of non resident migrant workers, then you don't understand farming, either large scale or small scale cooperatives.
Farm down the road, the Father (since passed away) employed 3 local guys. Farm was nice, he had trucks, nothing fancy. Put his son through college, and a daughter, I don't know where she is now.
Now the college educated son runs the farm, and employs a crew of maybe 10 (I don't know the exact number) of Mexican workers. The son has multiple brand new trucks, Gators, quads, 40 foot luxury 5th wheel camper, goes to Mexico all the time on vacation...
The Mexican workers all live in a tiny ### house across the field, all together. They don't seem to drive, except farm use trucks. I don't know what they do tbh, except hang out in their slave quarters after work.
The most help goes to poor rural white folks? Where? I need to move there, I'm poor and rural and white and I get Jack Shit from the government.
tmttactical
A True Doomsday Prepper
Studies with an agenda produce the results intended. Pay me enough money and I can rig, err, extrapolate, the data to match the paid for results.
KateMTx
A True Doomsday Prepper
I don't know how insurance used to be, but I just turned 26 this year and had to get my own insurance for the first time. Fortunately my employer offers insurance - my portion of the premiums is just over $100/month. But the deductible is $6000 (which is also the "out of pocket maximum"). Because I have a high-deductible health plan, I can open a "health savings account" where I can put "tax-free" money, but only up to $3500/year. . . So I agree healthcare kind of sucks.
Can't imagine $100 per month. We pay $2000.
KateMTx
A True Doomsday Prepper
Wow, that's. . . a lot. I guess the Affordable in "Affordable Care Act" doesn't apply to everyone. Health insurance is a mess
. I only get the most basic plan and since I'm single/no dependents it's cheaper, but I can't even imagine paying that much.
Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
Right? When I was working as a millwright, mine was just under a grand.
Now, I just have to hope whatever happens just turns me off like a light.
Standing there one second, next second off to sleep.
Seriously, if it was at all possible for everyone to get out of insurance what they put in, it wouldn't be feasible. Insurance companies would go broke.
Universal healthcare, same thing. More people have to pay, fewer people have to collect, or it's just more debt.
I'm guessing that those who think it's a fine idea, are not planning on being the paying party in this transaction.
Now, I just have to hope whatever happens just turns me off like a light.
Standing there one second, next second off to sleep.
Seriously, if it was at all possible for everyone to get out of insurance what they put in, it wouldn't be feasible. Insurance companies would go broke.
Universal healthcare, same thing. More people have to pay, fewer people have to collect, or it's just more debt.
I'm guessing that those who think it's a fine idea, are not planning on being the paying party in this transaction.
Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
Wow, that's. . . a lot. I guess the Affordable in "Affordable Care Act" doesn't apply to everyone. Health insurance is a mess
Your single? Why? Something wrong with ya?
Subtle. Squirtgun
Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
Lol, yeah I'm a bad person.
Might as well check out the sense of humor right from the start, see if she is someone I can banter with.
Might as well check out the sense of humor right from the start, see if she is someone I can banter with.
KateMTx
A True Doomsday Prepper
Who says something has to be wrong with a person for them to be single? Who says it's not something wrong with everyone else around them?
And Of course I understand that I'm not going to "get out of insurance what I put into it" - but I think the government regulations surrounding the issue just make a lot of things even worse. Seriously - is there any other service like that where it is prohibited to shop across state lines?
ACA was not unilaterally implemented... and not equally, for sure. I have no problem paying into a system that is universally implemented fairly. And I don’t use much healthcare..
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Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
>.>
I'm... semi single? I guess? And there's definitely something wrong with me.
I can't read anything into your post, possibility of enjoyable banter remains an unknown quantity.
As far as insurance, health or automotive, I didn't like it when my parents made me eat brussel sprouts. We're they good for me? Sure!
I don't like it when the government forces me to do anything, even if it's good for me, even if it's good for EVERYONE.
And I'm not just saying it to sound stupid, I mean it. I draw a line with the government, and take the fines, and cut off my nose to spite my face to prove a point.
Things like that, maybe why I'm semi single.
I'm... semi single? I guess? And there's definitely something wrong with me.
I can't read anything into your post, possibility of enjoyable banter remains an unknown quantity.
As far as insurance, health or automotive, I didn't like it when my parents made me eat brussel sprouts. We're they good for me? Sure!
I don't like it when the government forces me to do anything, even if it's good for me, even if it's good for EVERYONE.
And I'm not just saying it to sound stupid, I mean it. I draw a line with the government, and take the fines, and cut off my nose to spite my face to prove a point.
Things like that, maybe why I'm semi single.
TexasFreedom
A True Doomsday Prepper
Wow, 'universally implemented fairly'. On what planet? When one group gets most of their insurance paid and other groups get nothing? When insurance has gone up 5x in the past 10 years. Where in any of that do you see 'fair'.
And I'll echo Robin's statement. We have no 'pre-existing conditions', and the last quote I got was $1500/month with $10k deductible. And I would get zero gov't help.
KateMTx
A True Doomsday Prepper
Everything you said sounds like common sense to me; I don't see anything stupid about it. It's called freedom. As one of the few politicians I can stand once said, "I don't want my marriage or my guns registered in Washington." (Personally I don't really like guns and I think we've already determined I don't have a marriage, but it's the principle; I'm not going to tell others how to live their lives because of how I choose to live mine.)
Squirtgunsquirter
Demi-God
You should like guns.
Some are useful tools for getting food, an improvement on tools humans have been using since the dawn of time.
I'm glad you like Freedom, also something humans have been trying, more or less successfully, to enjoy since way, way back.
I'm sorry insurance is a hassle.
Some are useful tools for getting food, an improvement on tools humans have been using since the dawn of time.
I'm glad you like Freedom, also something humans have been trying, more or less successfully, to enjoy since way, way back.
I'm sorry insurance is a hassle.
