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I'm not a UK prepper, but this sounds just like the Civilization computer game my sons played when they were little.
Of course, it's handy to find such a beautiful countryside mini mansion and all that barbed wire.
Well, as this is the UK Preppers forum, and as Britain is full of big country houses, I might as well start discussing taking over one of them after the owners have died (along with 99% of the world's population) in an apocalyptic plague or asteroid strike.
Americans and other nations input is welcome too.
Okay here goes, welcome to-
DOOMSDAY HALL
The cities are starving and riot-torn, so we'll load our canned food and bottled water into our van and head out to an abandoned country house which we'll call Doomsday Hall and start making plans to grow/hunt/fish our own food-
First priority is defence, so we'll throw up a perimeter of barbed wire coils (from an abandoned builders yard) and an anti-vehicle ditch around the Hall-
The surrounding terrain is rich and fertile, including a river and the sea.
I estimate a group of about 25 people maximum would be able to comfortably survive there.
Note the wire perimeter (white) and the anti-vehicle ditch (yellow)-
Do DP members agree with all that so far?
No! The logistic is completely lacking. No heavy equipment to dig the anti-vehicle ditch. No fuel to locate and transport the large amount of barbed wire. Truck load of food will not last long with 25 people. The house is surrounded by prime hiding places for snipers to pick off the residents. The house residents will have to leave their fortification to get water or fire wood. Remember fortifications work in both direction. It may stop intruders but it can also bottle up the defenders, while the attackers are free to roam about collecting replenishment supplies. If there is a need for barbed wire and vehicle ditches, then this place is a death trap. Very poor strategy.
..If there is a need for barbed wire and vehicle ditches, then this place is a death trap. Very poor strategy.
1- Iron Age tribes dug ditches around their settlements, they didn't need heavy equipment so neither will we..
Below-Old Oswestry hillfort in Wales, it had multiple ditches around it dug by hand and filled with thorn bushes and water etc to keep the bad guys out-
2- There'll still be enough fuel around in the early stages of an apocalypse.
3- Our group will only be a few people at first so our food stocks will last quite a while, then the group size will grow as people begin drifting out of the cities to join us. Anyway the surrounding woods will be full of game, a shot deer will feed us for a week, plus there'll be fish in the river and sea. so hopefully we'll have people who know how to hunt and fish.
4- We'll have our own sniper on the Hall roof to get enemy snipers before they get us-
5- Yes we'll have to leave the fortified Hall to hunt and fish etc, but we'll all be armed to deal with any trespassers.
I fancy having a .38 revolver myself but people can choose whatever pieces they prefer.
6- Medieval castles could hold out for many months before the besiegers got fed up and went home, so we too could hunker down at the Hall for ages if we had to..
So just wondering if there are another preppers in the uk other than me nd me best mate (who's not on this forum yet) if there are whats your plans (rough ones lol) so if tsdhtf us fellow preppers might be able to join forces
I've seen a lot of the same arguments and the same photos on another forum, the guy was living in an upstairs apartment on Plymouth waterfront, no garden. doing anything AFTER the event has happened is a recipe for failure.
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