bought 2 pair of 5.11 a few weeks ago but got them on sale as new old stock. but have since then bought two pair of the LA police gear. don't like to waste money. never know when we will really need it. not that paper money will do any good at that point
Tactical clothing
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Kevin L
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I scrounge a lot of tactical clothes.
For my environment, I discovered guyabara shirts. They'er a mexican/cuban style shirt that is practical and dressy at the same time.
The shirt isn't meant to be tucked in, so it works to conceal handguns in the waistband. The pleats in the shirt brake up the outline of the piece
For my environment, I discovered guyabara shirts. They'er a mexican/cuban style shirt that is practical and dressy at the same time.
The shirt isn't meant to be tucked in, so it works to conceal handguns in the waistband. The pleats in the shirt brake up the outline of the piece
Squirtgunsquirter
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I can see dressing a certain way to be easily identifiable to "your side" in combat. Otherwise, I can't even figure out what "tactical" clothing is. Vertx has a rain coat that has side zips to access holsters, and certain features that facilitate weapons and comms use, and that makes sense. But pants? Too me, not much difference between tan 5.11 pants and tan wrangler carpenter jeans.
If I put on some armor, and a battle belt, and some nice loose fitting, comfortable Levi's jeans, I would think I would still be able to do all the things I needed to do, and still be wearing pants at the end of the day.
Given a choice between range time, or buying a grand worth of tactical clothing, I know what I would choose. I'm not dissing tactical stuff, I like it, but I don't think getting completely kitted out with NFM group clothing is going to be what keeps me alive.
One of the reasons Military and contracting companies choose suppliers, is simply who can deliver large numbers of items. There are some great small companies making great gear, but they can't handle an order of say, one hundred vests to be delivered in one week.
And honestly, we are preppers, not combat troops.
If a 60 year old lady with diabetes and arthritis has fired 5K rounds through her AR, and has an extra mag and the mindset to shoot to kill, I don't want to be shot at by her, period. I don't care if she is in curlers and a terry cloth bathrobe, wearing bunny slippers and clenching a Virginia Slim cigarette in her teeth. I'll pass on that fight.
If a 25 year old man who is a gym rat and marathon runner has fired one magazine through his AR standing at a range bench, and he isn't quite sure of himself, and is fully decked out in brand new, unused armor, pants, battle belt, combat boots etc. etc. ... I might have a go at that.
If I put on some armor, and a battle belt, and some nice loose fitting, comfortable Levi's jeans, I would think I would still be able to do all the things I needed to do, and still be wearing pants at the end of the day.
Given a choice between range time, or buying a grand worth of tactical clothing, I know what I would choose. I'm not dissing tactical stuff, I like it, but I don't think getting completely kitted out with NFM group clothing is going to be what keeps me alive.
One of the reasons Military and contracting companies choose suppliers, is simply who can deliver large numbers of items. There are some great small companies making great gear, but they can't handle an order of say, one hundred vests to be delivered in one week.
And honestly, we are preppers, not combat troops.
If a 60 year old lady with diabetes and arthritis has fired 5K rounds through her AR, and has an extra mag and the mindset to shoot to kill, I don't want to be shot at by her, period. I don't care if she is in curlers and a terry cloth bathrobe, wearing bunny slippers and clenching a Virginia Slim cigarette in her teeth. I'll pass on that fight.
If a 25 year old man who is a gym rat and marathon runner has fired one magazine through his AR standing at a range bench, and he isn't quite sure of himself, and is fully decked out in brand new, unused armor, pants, battle belt, combat boots etc. etc. ... I might have a go at that.
It has already been pretold for multiple hundreds of years. I just have to read Daniel and Revelations, it pretty much sums it up. In addition, if you research the length of life of a democracy, you will see that we are at the typical end of ours, only the prayers of the saints are holding it together.
You have the sound of experience. I appreciate your input and will be stashing this info in my brain bank.
Silent Earth
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What is that I see vanishing over the horizon? oh its the preppers best camouflage GREY MAN. If TSHTF my scope will be tracking anyone I see wearing pucker tactical kit approaching my AO. I reckon most of our US compatriots during a SHTF scenario would get VERY nervous if they see anything like GI Joe coming their way. Tac gear is fine for our sort of EDC gear IN MODERATION but going full on is going to make you VERY interesting to anyone on point. Beside as others point out much of the civilian gear is better made than Tac gear. The grey man armed with a accessorised civilian gun is not going to be as worry as a dude with a full set of tactical gear and a black rifle. (though I do understand that huge numbers of Americans carry AR15s these days.
Blend in and don't get noticed is much better than looking cool and having every rifle for a thousand yards looking for the gap in your vest.
Blend in and don't get noticed is much better than looking cool and having every rifle for a thousand yards looking for the gap in your vest.
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in the woods is one thing, but in an urban setting anyone wearing other than jeans and a sweatshirt or a hoodie is going to be noticed , and anyone wearing anything like military gear is going to stand out a mile.
Silent Earth
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On another respected forum a while back a member posted a photo of him, his three sons and his brother in law all kitted out in the same full on tactical clothing. He asked for opinions on the suitability of his bug out gear. He did not get the praise he was expecting, almost everyone said they would automatically consider his group as a VERY HIGH THREAT when compared to if they dressed in outdoorsy civilian gear. There gear look as cool as hell but it advertised them as a clear and present danger to other survivalists protecting their homes. Bunny bashing, Bambi bashing, Recce / Recon/ etc has a good used to cammo gear in the woods but obviously not in cities and vice versa.
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Silent Earth
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Hai / yes sensai "Civilian Operator" cherry picks the best of civvy and military and security industry practice. Civvy approach shoes / boots like Merrills Salomon etc, Multi pocket plain cargos, possibly a vest under a polo shirt. Look at the guys in your image, take the carbines off them give them SBRs or Bullpups instead and pop a decent outdoor jacket on them and they blend in to a point of discreteness that works who to trash and opfor alike they ooze " professional". But under the coat is firepower and protection.
Course the tourists don't have any situational awareness of whats going on around them where as the enlightened will. ( Much needed in London and Birmingham these days)
I think most career bad guys can detect if potential prey is self confident in their behaviour and mannerisms and their instincts make them hold back.
As they say MOVE WITH PURPOSE, don't doddle, don't read maps
Course the tourists don't have any situational awareness of whats going on around them where as the enlightened will. ( Much needed in London and Birmingham these days)
I think most career bad guys can detect if potential prey is self confident in their behaviour and mannerisms and their instincts make them hold back.
As they say MOVE WITH PURPOSE, don't doddle, don't read maps
Tactical clothing,,,ha
what you wear depends on where you are, are you in the city or town or out for a days shopping,you want to blend in and not draw attention to yourself
what you wear depends on where you are, are you in the city or town or out for a days shopping,you want to blend in and not draw attention to yourself
wrong,,,thugs go for those who looks like they have money,,,,jeans and a T-Shirt spells Average Joe and probably not worth the trouble
I'm sorry but these 3 just stand out like a sore thumb even without the gear
now in all fairness I would like some body armor but it is not much of a priority with me,,
if and that is a big IF the SHTF it would be nice to have,,,myself I go camo because that will fit my environment in the case of SHTF,,,,for everyday wear just blend in even your ride matters in this,older VS new,= older is better there is no misconception that you have a fat wallet so thugs don't look to hard at you,clothing that has that worn look is a plus when out,,(most folks dress in their better clothing when going to town )
in other words old ride worn older clothing is an indication of not having much,,,,
NICE CLOTHS A NEW RIDE MEANS YOU ARE DOING WELL AND WORTH THE RISK TO ROB EVEN IF ALL THEY GET IS YOUR RIDE,,,,,,
WAS LOOKING GOOD WORTH THE BEATING YOU JUST TOOK
if and that is a big IF the SHTF it would be nice to have,,,myself I go camo because that will fit my environment in the case of SHTF,,,,for everyday wear just blend in even your ride matters in this,older VS new,= older is better there is no misconception that you have a fat wallet so thugs don't look to hard at you,clothing that has that worn look is a plus when out,,(most folks dress in their better clothing when going to town )
in other words old ride worn older clothing is an indication of not having much,,,,
NICE CLOTHS A NEW RIDE MEANS YOU ARE DOING WELL AND WORTH THE RISK TO ROB EVEN IF ALL THEY GET IS YOUR RIDE,,,,,,
WAS LOOKING GOOD WORTH THE BEATING YOU JUST TOOK
out for a day of shopping, lol, for what and where. People think that when the SHTF that stores will still be open, that you'll be able to get gas for your cars. Think again. When you think of what's coming, think of the most unimaginable situation. From the things i have seen, there won't be as many people around as you're planning to shoot. plan on seeing them already dead in the street from the sickness that's coming.. Hope those guy's in the picture have something for their legs. I'm going for a leg shot and bleed out first, but if they can struggle enough to get up it won't be for long. Just hunker down for a few months.
has the SHTF yet,,,,no it has not,,,,,,,you miss my point entirely we aren't in South America or one of the other shit holes around the world,,,,,we are more prone to suffer thru a earthquake ,tornado, or hurricane or a sever winter storm ,a few months at the worse,,,,to many here hoping for the SHTF,,,,
perp by all means better safe than sorry, will the SHTF,it could happen,,,,will it ,I highly doubt it
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Without the power display I'd say they look like the guys at the car show, farm auction or flea market.
I'm sorry but these 3 just stand out like a sore thumb even without the gear
