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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus-surgeon-general-trnd/index.html
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(CNN)The United States' top doctor has one simple request: Stop buying face masks.

US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams' message, posted to Twitter on Saturday, was a response to face mask shortages as people stocked up due to coronavirus concerns.
"Seriously people," he began, and though it's a tweet, you can almost hear the exasperation in his plea. "STOP BUYING MASKS!"


"They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!" he continued.
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus-surgeon-general-trnd/index.html
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(CNN)The United States' top doctor has one simple request: Stop buying face masks.

US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams' message, posted to Twitter on Saturday, was a response to face mask shortages as people stocked up due to coronavirus concerns.
"Seriously people," he began, and though it's a tweet, you can almost hear the exasperation in his plea. "STOP BUYING MASKS!"


"They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!" he continued.

My response to that is if you have masks use them as I am sure it is better than nothing. It can't hurt. I am a cancer survivor and went through a long treatment period where I had a compromised immune system. Disinfecting my home, my body and wearing masks was an everyday way of life. Fortunately I had lots left over and will probably use them if I have need.
 
My response to that is if you have masks use them as I am sure it is better than nothing. It can't hurt. I am a cancer survivor and went through a long treatment period where I had a compromised immune system. Disinfecting my home, my body and wearing masks was an everyday way of life. Fortunately I had lots left over and will probably use them if I have need.
we all have to do what is best for our self's ,,,I don't believe the mask will be much good against a virus so I will not be buying any
 
I was thinking to order some more freeze dried food for my stash. Pretty much everything is SOLD OUT on every site.
I decided to do some checking around town. Every store I checked is completely sold out of masks of any kind, except for a few dust masks in a couple hardware stores.

Infowars store was still taking orders for freeze dried foods today, but said they would soon run out.
 
Masks DO help until they get moist so they are ideal to help you get out of town / work / school or to pop to the shops etc about 45 minutes per mask, perhaps 60 for masks with exhaust valves fitted. But you also need eye protection and to use gloves / hand sanitizer, but on their own they are NOT an effective barrier. N95 FFP3 minimum
 
https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/29/health/face-masks-coronavirus-surgeon-general-trnd/index.html
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(CNN)The United States' top doctor has one simple request: Stop buying face masks.

US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams' message, posted to Twitter on Saturday, was a response to face mask shortages as people stocked up due to coronavirus concerns.
"Seriously people," he began, and though it's a tweet, you can almost hear the exasperation in his plea. "STOP BUYING MASKS!"


"They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can't get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!" he continued.

This guy is a jackass, they do work if you use the correct size and form fit them. Along with goggles and gloves.
 
This guy is a jackass, they do work if you use the correct size and form fit them. Along with goggles and gloves.


I am of this mind about this if they don't work why do doctors and nurses that are going to be taking care of individuals that have this illness,need them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
 
I am of this mind about this if they don't work why do doctors and nurses that are going to be taking care of individuals that have this illness,need them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
This is what I told my friends today when we were talking about this. Why are they saying everyone doesn't need them then in the same breath saying don't buy them all because doctors need them? It doesn't add up except they want to make sure there are enough for doctors.
I do agree mask are not enough, I have goggles too and plenty of hand sanitizers and antimicrobial wipes.
 
Doctors working with COVID-19 patients need disposable N95 respirators, NOT surgical masks or "facemasks."

The facemasks you see most of the Chinese wearing create a false sense of security because they DO NOT I repeat DO NOT protect the wearer against airborne particles.

Read this.

Facemasks

A facemask is a loose-fitting, disposable device that creates a physical barrier between the mouth and nose of the wearer and potential contaminants in the immediate environment. Facemasks are not to be shared and may be labeled as surgical, isolation, dental or medical procedure masks. They may come with or without a face shield.

If worn properly, a facemask is meant to help block large-particle droplets, splashes, sprays or splatter that may contain germs (viruses and bacteria), keeping it from reaching your mouth and nose. Facemasks may also help reduce exposure of your saliva and respiratory secretions to others.

While a facemask may be effective in blocking splashes and large-particle droplets, a facemask, by design, does not filter or block very small particles in the air that may be transmitted by coughs, sneezes or certain medical procedures. Facemasks also do not provide complete protection from germs and other contaminants because of the loose fit between the surface of the facemask and your face.
 
I am not going to be wearing a mask. If this thing is that contagious and at the same time, no worse than the flu (for the average healthy person), then I will just take my chances. My prep is not masks but medicine to treat Cold and Flu. Our local Walmart still has a large supply of Cold and Flu medicine (at least it did on Friday). Just my opinion and I have been known to be wrong before (just ask my wife :) ).
 
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By Patrick Sawer, Senior News Reporter ; Helena Horton and Yohannes Lowe 28 February 2020 • 6:00pm
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Shelves empty of hand sterilising gel at a Boots store in York, Yorkshire, as concerns grow over the spread of Coronavirus (COVID-19) across the UK Credit: Colin Scarr/LNP/London News Pictures Ltd
Online supermarket Ocado has told customers to make their orders further in advance as households began stockpiling food and basic health products in the face of growing fears over the impending scale of coronavirus in Britain.

As the number of confirmed cases of the virus jumped by six in just 24 hours the online retailer said it had been experiencing "exceptionally high demand" with customers placing "particularly large orders". Lidl also said they had seen a spike in sales of durable products and disinfectants.

Following the outbreak there have been warnings that panic buying could become rife, with anxious shoppers stripping shelves of tinned food, bottled water and other basics.

Already Boots is restricting the purchases of hand sanitiser to two bottles per customer, while shoppers have reported buying large quantities of nappies, toilet roll, soup, tinned fruit, pet food and medicine in case they are forced into self-isolation by the virus.

Many chemists have already sold out of facemasks - despite warnings by health officials they are of limited use in everyday circumstances - and online scammers have begun exploiting fears by selling stocks at vastly inflated prices.

Lidl said its supermarkets were “experiencing a significant increase in demand for durable products or disinfectants.”

A spokeswoman added: “We are doing everything we can to ensure the food supply and we have increased deliveries to our branches.”

Tonight Ocado also warned customers to book further in advance after seeing demand sky rocket.

In an email the company told customers: "We want to let you know that we’re experiencing exceptionally high demand at the moment.

"More people than usual seem to be placing particularly large orders. As a result, delivery slots are selling out quicker than expected."

The online supermarket said shoppers should place their orders two to three days further in advance than usual and if possible pick a weekday slot.

The online supermarket said shoppers should place their orders two to three days further in advance than usual and if possible pick a weekday slot.

Consumer experts predict the situation will only get worse if the numbers of Britons suffering from coronavirus begin to rise in line with the spread of the virus in parts of northern Italy, where several towns are in lock-down amid 655 cases of COVID-19 and 17 deaths.

They warn that the UK’s reliance on foreign food imports and last-minute supply chains could leave it vulnerable if the crisis deepens and panic buying takes hold.

Professor Tim Lang, an expert in food policy at City, University of London, said: “The food sector today runs on a ‘just-in-time’ logistics system. The whole idea is to not have storage. Britain is catastrophically dependent on external sources.”

Ratula Chakraborty, professor of business management at the University of East Anglia (UEA) , said: "The prospect of whole towns being in lockdown and shops closed is heightening the fear and stockpiling may become rife.

"Inevitably some anxious households will begin stocking piling food, medicines and other storable essentials.”

Some shoppers have already admitted on social media that fear of coronavirus was leading them to begin stockpiling.

One told Mumsnet said they were "filling the cupboard with soup, tomatoes, tinned fruit, flour, crackers”.

Another confessed she was considering building “a small stockpile or supplies because of corona”, adding: "I've never done so in my life. But reading about the Italian villages that have been put on lockdown and families can't leave their homes has got me thinking.”

Social media users have posted photographs of empty shelves, with one reporting a run on bread at a Waitrose in Bath, while another posted a photograph showing high demand for aspirin at a Tesco in London.

Emergency Food Storage UK, Europe’s largest emergency food supplier, says it has been inundated with orders for its emergency food supply kits since the start of the COVID-19 crisis. These range in price from upwards of £169 for a standard one month supply.

There have also been reports that some households have bought chest freezers to be sure of enough supplies, with others even planning to turn one room in their house into an 'isolation zone' equipped with cooking equipment, bedding and food in case they are required to self-isolate.

Chemists and supermarkets have seen shelves emptied of sanitiser wipes and gels as consumers heed official advice to regularly wash their hands to reduce the risk of the virus spreading further.

Branches of Boots have begun displaying signs reading: “Due to high demand we are only selling two hand sanitisers per person. Sorry for any inconvenience.”

Superdrug has also been hit by high demand. Muna Mohamed, a website writer and developer from London, posted on social media: “Tried to buy hand sanitiser today at Superdrug – the WHOLE section was out of stock. Tried another two stores, same thing! Apparently there’s a shortage of hand sanitisers all over. Scary!”

In a statement Boots said: “We are currently out of stock of surgical face masks in stores and online. We have also seen an increase in sales of hand sanitisers but we still have stock available in our warehouses for stores and online. There is currently a limit of two hand sanitisers per customer to ensure as many people as possible have access to them.”

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People wearing face masks on the London Underground, as the first case of coronavirus was confirmed in Wales and two more identified in England - bringing the total number in the UK to 19. Credit: Kirsty O'Connor/PA
Meanwhile the number of shoppers at the normally busy Bicester Village outlet in Oxfordshire has plummeted. The outlet is popular with Chinese visitors, but they have largely disappeared since the start of the coronavirus crisis.

Attempts to exploit fears over Coronavirus has prompted the giant online retailer Amazon to remove adverts for products which claim to cure the virus.

Sellers are being blocked from describing cleansers, surgical face masks, and sprays as capable of ‘destroying’ COVID-19.

In one case, Amazon told a seller it would remove their listing for a surgical face masks because it made “unapproved medical marketing claims.”

It comes as EasyJet followed British Airways in announcing it was cancelling flights to Italy due to falling demand as a result of the continued spread of coronavirus.

One unintended consequence is the sudden availability of cheap travel deals, with prices falling as tourists prove reluctant to travel to areas associated with coronavirus.

Low-cost airlines are listing flights to Venice and Milan for under £20 each way, while some operators are selling week-long holidays to Tenerife in March for as low as £267.

China Southern is offering return flights from London to Beijing from just £330.

Saw video of Asians wearing masks, but some didn't have their noses covered. Am I missing something?
 
It will probably differ depending on the area. This is the smallest and probably most remote county in TN. Only 1 small Walmart in the county. The local hospital was bought by a foreign company last year and closed down. So there is no emergency room or hospital in that entire county.

Fellow Tennessean. That makes 3. . I'm from Middle Tennessee .
 
I think the best thing you can do right now is limit your exposure to the public, boost your immune system, and get plenty of sleep.

The viral load seems to affect how serious the virus gets. In other words, if you get exposed to a few viruses, then your body has a chance to fight it off. If you get massively exposed then you have less of a chance of fighting it. That's why perfectly healthy health professionals are dying - they get massively exposed when they are unaware that the patients they are seeing have the virus, so they aren't wearing N95 respirators until it's too late.
 
My local Sam's club is out of vitamin C, bleach, wipes, gloves, and now all EmergenC and airborne supplements I just bought them all.

I have to buy for stupid relatives now, before its gone.
 
My local Sam's club is out of vitamin C, bleach, wipes, gloves, and now all EmergenC and airborne supplements I just bought them all.

I have to buy for stupid relatives now, before its gone.

I hate using bleach, (I can't breathe) but always keep a few gallons to use in the pressure washer.
 
Without me even telling her to, my wife has gone crazy buying food. Shopping spree Saturday at Chinese markets in Atlanta and at Sam's here today. We have so much food we don't have anywhere to put it all. Freezers are packed tight, 25 pound bags of rice all over the floor in the kitchen..

I asked her if a lot of people were shopping, she said yes. I had to explain to her why - she didn't believe me, LOL.

Must be woman's intuition or something.
 
Without me even telling her to, my wife has gone crazy buying food. Shopping spree Saturday at Chinese markets in Atlanta and at Sam's here today. We have so much food we don't have anywhere to put it all. Freezers are packed tight, 25 pound bags of rice all over the floor in the kitchen..

I asked her if a lot of people were shopping, she said yes. I had to explain to her why - she didn't believe me, LOL.

Must be woman's intuition or something.

I store my rice and popcorn in gallon water jugs. Keeps out critters. I store them in the house but a few years all of the neighbors had an infestation of those little brown moths that ate into all of the plastic bags and cardboard boxes holding food. It took forever to get rid of all of them. I had to repaint the pantry because I would see one and smash it on the ceiling. Can't remember the official name of the moths.
 

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