What Will The Western Half Of The US Look Like During "The Second Dust Bowl"?

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https://www.zerohedge.com/weather/what-will-western-half-us-look-during-second-dust-bowl
Be advised if you live out that way, or are looking to move.
And that map is current. I have that site on my bookmarks going back years.

From other reporting I have read and heard (to include scientists from the JPL), CA was going through an unusually wet period from the early 1900s to about the 2000s.
IIRC, Lewis and Clark when they reached the Pacific, they called the region The Great American Desert.

Access to fresh water is paramount to survival.
 
I’ve thought a lot about the large western cities in dry places and their lack of sustainable access to drinkable water. Right now housing prices are at an all time high and sales are booming across most of the US. If you are truly interested in prepping then there has been no better time to move to an area with access to the most basic resource we all need.
 
Brent S said:
I’ve thought a lot about the large western cities in dry places and their lack of sustainable access to drinkable water. Right now housing prices are at an all time high and sales are booming across most of the US. If you are truly interested in prepping then there has been no better time to move to an area with access to the most basic resource we all need.
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A lot of Southern CA water comes from a long way off.

They are also the biggest importer of energy too. That also comes from a long way off.
 
got my own well and the Danube is 4 miles away, a five mile long natural lake is 2 miles away...we got water...feel sorry for those needing to pipe in their life support systems just to keep the swimming pool filled....
 
I’ve got two creeks that flow across my property here. When I was looking for land to build on a creek with a good source was at the top of the list. I just lucked out finding it with two. I also have a deep well, city water, a pool and three ponds. This just shows how important I consider water from a preppers perspective. At least if I ever do have to carry buckets of water to flush with or filter to drink I won’t have to carry it a long way. I think desert is beautiful in its own way but I don’t see it as a good place to call home.
 
Jayson said:
We have a seasonal creek that flows through our property. I’d estimate at least a 1,000 gallons a minute during peak rainy season. Instead of capturing that runoff in a reservoir, the local water district lets all that fresh water flow into the ocean.
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By seasonal do you mean it goes dry?
 
More scare tactics. Most of the west is already desert. Deserts are dry. Yes I agree, there are way too many people living in arid areas where large populations shouldn't be. California is draining rivers, lakes and underground aquifers. Same with the big cities in Arizona and Las Vegas. With open borders and city f$#k's all wanting to move out west its just going to get worse. Plus we have an insane desire to feed the world. All of this needs water, which will be in short supply soon.
 
California, Arizona and Nevada all have a problem with math. They can't seem to understand the basics. If you subtract more than you add to a commodity, you will eventually run out. They are using up more water than mother nature is suppling. They will run out as the demand for more water continues. Simple math.
 
"Mega-drought" depletes system that provides water to 40 million

"Mega-drought" depletes system that provides water to 40 million (yahoo.com)


This part of the Colorado River system is a crucial water supply for Las Vegas, Phoenix, and southern California. It makes the vast agricultural land of the desert Southwest possible. Lake Mead is at just 37% of its capacity.

Rolling brown outs, water scarcity, insane taxes and regulation, violence (and a govt that doesn't want you to be able to protect yourself), homeless crisis, drug crisis,..... who would want to live there?
 
Water is one of the resources that I shouldn't have to worry about. I have a well on my property (with the ability to handpump in the event of no electricity), a large inground pool, a lake behind me, and a decent sized river on one side. Also have the ability to filter hundreds of thousands of gallons at least.
 
Helen Back said:
Rolling brown outs, water scarcity, insane taxes and regulation, violence (and a govt that doesn't want you to be able to protect yourself), homeless crisis, drug crisis,..... who would want to live there?
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I'm glad that millions choose to stay there. I wish they all would. Californians typically ruin every place they move to.
 
In California, legacy sources of water are rivers. Those rights were gobbled up long ago. No new cities or developments get Colorado River water or Owens Valley water and only, only, only San Francisco gets water from Yosemite National Park---how do you feel about paying for their water? The Feather River project supplies some residential water to the western part of the Central Valley but mostly they service the big plantations.

I worked for Culligan Water for a year. They are the biggest private water treatment company in the world. They say all new water in the Western United States will be well water, period.

The extreme drought area on the map are already deserts. Most of the Southwestern USA is a desert. Cyclic variations in rainfall, like temperature, are a part of our climate. Long term variations are part of a 250,000 year cycle called the Milankovitch Cycle and have nothing to do with or cannot be influenced by any man caused change.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milankovitch_cycles
But there is a silver lining. Illegal Aliens go where water flows. So if we cut the big plantations off, maybe some of the illegals will return to Mexico.
 
Helen Back said:
Yeah, I almost put this under Man Made Disasters
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That would probably be a more accurate location. Bottom line is there are just too GD many people trying to live where the land cannot support them. The citys are draining the lakes and rivers and the farmers are draining the aquifers as well as the lakes and rivers. Its like a house of cards; eventually the water will dry up and it'll all come crashing down.
Years ago some know-it-all idiot from California proposed to pipe the Columbia River from Oregon/Washington down to California.
Every piece of land has whats called a "carrying capacity". That just means that all land can only support a certain number of animals and/or people. The US exceeded its carrying capacity probably a hundred years ago. California even earlier.
 
The Dust Bowl was a man-made disaster. Farmers stripped off the buffalo grass of the plains, planted crops but left the soil exposed in dry, windy weather.

Much of the Southern and Central Sierra Nevada mountains have been burnt off. There is nothing there but "moon dust". Climate, soil type, and vegetation are all on a huge, circular, feed-back loop. So if you change one, the other two will change. In the case of fire this means : Fire aftermath reflects solar radiation back into the atmosphere causing less rainfall AND fire kills the soil bacteria making first generation secondary growth amount to nothing but weeds and brush. So we have hot, dry, crappy weather and it will take at least 300 years to get back to the forested conditions we once had.
 
Maybe California is different, they think they are anyway, but every place that I've been forest fires generally do Not burn every tree. The 300,000+ acre fire around my place last year burned probably only about 60% of the trees. Thats still bad but not devastating. The trees will come back, they always do. It all depends on how fast the fire moves. A lot of times a fire will jump over draws and canyons leaving many acres of trees unburned.
I know that in this day and age its fashionable to think that everything that happens now is worse than its ever been. The west has always been hot and dry, fires happen every year, always have. In the old days even the Indians started huge fires to burn off the brush and timber to make hunting eaiser.
 
The only difference is for the first time in history we have 65million people living in the south west that are going to run out of water. Anyone that dosent sell now while the housing market is at an all time high just needs to know the risks they are taking. I believe there will be wet seasons again, but right now the predictions are pretty dire for the foreseeable future. I don’t care what is going to happen in 20 or 30 yrs, considering the average lifespan of a human is only 70, I mostly care about the hardships during my years.
 
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