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800,000 have power turned off.


A power company has started cutting electricity to around 800,000 homes, businesses and other locations in Northern California, in an attempt to prevent wildfires.

Large swathes of the San Francisco Bay Area - though not the city itself - are expected to be affected.

The region’s utility company, Pacific Gas and Electric (PG&E), has warned the shut down could last several days.

The move has drawn anger from some residents.

With weather forecasts predicting high winds, the move is intended to prevent the risk of fallen power lines igniting the kind of wildfires that have devastated large areas of the state in previous years.

"The conditions are ripe: dry fuel, high winds, warm event. Any spark can create a significant event," said Ray Riordan, director of the Office of Emergency Management in San Jose, during a press conference on Tuesday.

The huge “Camp Fire" in the town of Paradise last year burned 150,000 acres and left 86 people dead. An investigation determined that poorly maintained PG&E equipment was to blame for starting the blaze - the deadliest in California’s history.
The firm was also blamed for deadly fires in 2017. Subsequent lawsuits led the publicly-traded company to declare bankruptcy in 2019, a process which is still ongoing. PG&E is the sole provider of gas and electricity for much of Northern California, and so the vast majority of consumers in the region do not have an alternative source of power.
“We have experienced an unprecedented fire season the past two years,” said Tamar Sarkissian, a PG&E spokeswoman, speaking to BBC partner CBS News.

"And what we learned from that is that we need to be taking further steps to ensure the safety of our customers and the communities that we serve. Public safety power shut off is one of the many steps that we're taking."
Rush for supplies

PG&E has carried out several shut offs over the course of the past year, though none at the scale of what is predicted this week.

“None of us are happy about it,” said California governor, Gavin Newsom. “But this is part of something that we knew was likely to occur several months ago, when PG&E finally woke up to their responsibility to keep people safe.”
The warnings stretch north of the San Francisco Bay Area, in areas such as Napa and Sonoma, famed for wine-making. Further south, many cities synonymous with Silicon Valley giants could be affected, such as Cupertino, home to Apple.

Local shops reported an influx of customers buying up supplies for a black out that could, if the weather remains adverse, last for several days.
The idea of five days without electricity is devastating,” said Libby Schaaf, mayor of Oakland, but added: "We fully expect that to be a worst-case scenario. This is our first time going through this.”

But websites providing information about the cuts have buckled under heavy traffic loads. Many residents have taken to PG&E’s social media channels to express their frustration.

The idea of five days without electricity is devastating,” said Libby Schaaf, mayor of Oakland, but added: "We fully expect that to be a worst-case scenario. This is our first time going through this.”

But websites providing information about the cuts have buckled under heavy traffic loads. Many residents have taken to PG&E’s social media channels to express their frustration.

Starting on Wednesday, 28 Community Resource Centers in the region will be opened to provide “restrooms, bottled water and electronic-device charging”.

Many schools in the area have told students to stay at home on Wednesday and await further information for the remainder of the week.

Despite widespread frustration, local meteorologist Mike Pechner told CBS the move was warranted.

"It's not an overreaction at all. As the wind comes in, the wires, of course, oscillate back and forth. If they touch, they start a fire.
 
PG&E didn't install the safety switches for the power lines, instead they gave the money to there CEO and Democrat politicians. CA won't do controlled burns either, so they get uncontrolled fires. It's the majority of voters in CA that put these idiots in power. They deserve these consequences.
 
PG&E didn't install the safety switches for the power lines, instead they gave the money to there CEO and Democrat politicians. CA won't do controlled burns either, so they get uncontrolled fires. It's the majority of voters in CA that put these idiots in power. They deserve these consequences.

I did not know that about the power company. Over here we rarely get this sort of problem because 99% of Uk power lines are buried deep underground. The californians appear to have gotten what they have voted for.
 
In case some have not figured it out yet, I will paint the picture. PG&E wants immunity for prosecution or from civil suits. The California government will cave and grant them this protection, after a few of these scheduled outages. Note: The power remains on for the rich (Palo Alto, Cupertino, San Francisco) powerful and for the Silicon Valley business. Just extortion and the the Democrats will fold. If they had a backbone, they would not be Democrats and they would not be in power.
 
I chalk a good deal of this up to the lawyers and lawsuits. With no end to liability in sight why wouldn’t companies do anything to limit their exposure to the sharks, I mean lawyers, that are circling. We seriously need major tort reforms in this country before all the big companies are bankrupted. Way too many fat and greedy lawyers...
Back to the original topic, I hope the best for everyone affected. I also think that maybe spending a week without electricity just might help motivate many to start seeing the common sense in prepping.
 
I chalk a good deal of this up to the lawyers and lawsuits. With no end to liability in sight why wouldn’t companies do anything to limit their exposure to the sharks, I mean lawyers, that are circling. We seriously need major tort reforms in this country before all the big companies are bankrupted. Way too many fat and greedy lawyers...
Back to the original topic, I hope the best for everyone affected. I also think that maybe spending a week without electricity just might help motivate many to start seeing the common sense in prepping.

Yes tort reform is needed. PG&E allowed their equipment to fail, for lack of proper maintenance, so they should be liable. PG&E took the profits and failed to maintain the equipment. Then filed bankruptcy to avoid the huge payouts. They want the immunity so when they come out of BK, it will be business as usual.

As for being prepared, no such luck. These are the same folks that lived through the last big quake, that brought down freeways and damaged bridges. They will not take responsibility for their own lives and expect the gooberment to come save them. These are the same folks that vote Democrat, believe the sky is falling and yet, do nothing to prepare.
 
Tesla is warning California owners to fully charge their cars NOW.
https://www.fastcompany.com/9041533...o-charge-their-cars-before-the-power-goes-out
Meanwhile Tesla headquarters are conveniently just outside of the blackout zone...
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I did not know that about the power company. Over here we rarely get this sort of problem because 99% of Uk power lines are buried deep underground. The californians appear to have gotten what they have voted for.
you seem to have overlooked all the pylons that criss cross the UK, outside of cities that is.
you know, all those power lines that come down in the first storm of the winter.
 
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hurray for the preppers out there.in which their prepared for time's like this.

then there's the snowflakes and other's with their heads in the sand.let um rot.

it don't make sense to live in. a state in which you know something like this could happen.but yet don't prepare for it.
 
I wonder if those Democrat Preppers I read about are ready to bug out in their electric Teslas , Toyotas and Nissans? oh wait they cannot cos they cannot charge their batteries.
Hey, your knocking Tesla there buddy. I think they are badass. Only wish I could afford one! Seriously, right now they are a fancy toy (maybe more than a toy, but still being developed into something really good and usable). Give it a few more years of R&D and it’s going to be the future of transportation. Even if Tesla goes under from debt, he is trailblazing a path to make a better mode of transport. Sorry for the off topic rant but I love Tesla and what they are trying to do. And they do it with style!
 
Hey, your knocking Tesla there buddy. I think they are badass. Only wish I could afford one! Seriously, right now they are a fancy toy (maybe more than a toy, but still being developed into something really good and usable). Give it a few more years of R&D and it’s going to be the future of transportation. Even if Tesla goes under from debt, he is trailblazing a path to make a better mode of transport. Sorry for the off topic rant but I love Tesla and what they are trying to do. And they do it with style!

When and ONLY when electric vehicles can drive 800 miles on one charge AT NIGHT in WINTER with lightson , heater bowing and 4wd in operation AND be recharged in say 90 minutes THEN I will look at one. I do admire Tesla and had / have a fair respect for Elon, but I'm furious that he still accuses a British dive rescue hero simply because the rescue team refused elons survival pod.
 
When and ONLY when electric vehicles can drive 800 miles on one charge AT NIGHT in WINTER with lightson , heater bowing and 4wd in operation AND be recharged in say 90 minutes THEN I will look at one. I do admire Tesla and had / have a fair respect for Elon, but I'm furious that he still accuses a British dive rescue hero simply because the rescue team refused elons survival pod.
Yeah, I do remember the row over the dive rescue pod! I agree with you that electric cars aren’t there yet, but Elon got the ball rolling and it won’t be long. Once battery technology finds a better mouse trap then the sky is the limit.
I just bought a big gas guzzling 4 wheel drive myself and am not ready to trade it in for a 4 wheeled moped just yet either!
 
I wonder where all that EXTRA power for all these electric cars is supposed to come from when we don't have enough electricity in the UK now never mind then. for several, I think three, years in a row we have come very close to demand outstripping supply and was only averted by buying more power from Europe, probably France( I wonder if that will still be possible post Brexit?).
we have only ONE new power station being built and that wont be functioning until 2025.
 
I wonder where all that EXTRA power for all these electric cars is supposed to come from when we don't have enough electricity in the UK now never mind then. for several, I think three, years in a row we have come very close to demand outstripping supply and was only averted by buying more power from Europe, probably France( I wonder if that will still be possible post Brexit?).
we have only ONE new power station being built and that wont be functioning until 2025.
Yes, infrastructure needs to be updated as well. Funny, energy is one of the most abundant things in the universe and we are squabbling over it coming from one source. The whole industry of oil has discouraged research into other alternatives for decades. I’m fine with them being the providers and only sellers even, but cleaner options are needed. Demand for juice is and will continue to rise world wide. I read that the sun bathes our planet with more energy in a single day than we consume in a year worldwide. I’m a big fan of hydroelectric too. I think fusion will make it one day too but don’t know how safe it is yet.
 
How are the rechargable cars working out in California right now? I can't imagine anyone completely depending on an electric vehicle. Maybe someday. Unless they can come up with an electric vehicle that can haul 20,000 pounds of hay or cattle, has a minimum of a 500 mile range, true 4 wheel drive, heat and air conditioning, then I have no use for one of these liberal pipe dreams.
 
at the moment even if someone could afford an electric car, in the UK at least, there aren't enough charging points so there use is limited to cities only.
 

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