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GeorgiaPeachie said:
Personally I prefer seeds that were grown close to me or in the same planting zone. Go to a Farmer’s Co-op close by.
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Of course.
We're looking for Tomato seeds for sure. Corn would be nice.
Of course potatoes since they're easy to grow. Some watermelon would be good great and it's another easy to grow item and it's a treat.
Jalapenos for sure,another easy to grow item.
Texas has a long list of plants you can grow and we have a long growing season.
Right now we have a limited area to grow crops but when we bug out we'll have plenty of room to grow crops.
The biggest issue is the sandy soil around the BOL location. There is a lot of bottom land that would be perfect so we'd have two options.
Haul the fertile soil back to camp or plant in the bottoms. I'm kinda hesitant to plant in the bottoms for fear of people raiding the garden.
 
Dont take the risk of losing your crop. Bring the good soil up. Things are going to be rough for at least the first 6 months. So you have a start, pick up blueberry bushes, Hazelnut trees and plant now or put in pots.

Choose seeds that will give you more calories for your effort. Potatoes, peas and sweet potatoes. Dent corn which will keep even without electric. Summer as well as winter squash… beets and carrots to keep for non growing season. Vegetables that are essential for health such as kale and spinach. Don’t forget onions and garlic as well as some melons and pumpkins!
 
TexPrep said:
Does anyone have a good source for heirloom seeds?
The way things are going I want a source of food I can grow myself.
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Tractor Supply has some, I have even seen them at Lowe's and Home Depot. I buy mine from all over. Amazon has some heirloom sellers, especially good when looking for some hard to find things.
 
Danil54grl said:
I would first call around to your local feed store to see if they sell seeds in bulk. You can get them at a much lower price. You would need to know what varieties are heirloom verses GMO's since I know my feed store sells both. I pick the heirlooms for the most part.
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I have to go to Home Depot and I'll pass right by the Tractor Supply so it's an easy stop.
 
Growing good nutritious food is something the past 2-3 generations have forgotten about. For the safety of families and our communities, it is critical to grow a portion of your own food or at least know how to do so. We grow some of our seeds ourselves and also sell some directly from our website and can provide advice.
 
bigpaul said:
seed catalogues, dont buy anything marked "Hybrid" or "F1".
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All heirloom seeds are hybrid, it is true they are not F1, but all seeds on the market today have been hybrid for the last 300 years,
some for thousand years.
Corn or maize was knee high grass, that was hybrided into a four to ten foot stalk of corn, so different, that botanist had to use DNA to track the mother plant down & it grows in Mexico today.
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Crabapple said:
All heirloom seeds are hybrid, it is true they are not F1, but all seeds on the market today have been hybrid for the last 300 years,
some for thousand years.
Corn or maize was knee high grass, that was hybrided into a four to ten foot stalk of corn, so different, that botanist had to use DNA to track the mother plant down & it grows in Mexico today. View attachment 17199
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It is grown a lot in Texas too. Done for the season by June. There is a difference though between a plant that is bred over consecutive seasons and one that has had its genes spliced with another plant so that it does not reproduce to match the characteristics of the mother plant.
 
Crabapple said:
All heirloom seeds are hybrid, it is true they are not F1, but all seeds on the market today have been hybrid for the last 300 years,
some for thousand years.
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Crabapple, we are using the more narrow definition of "hybrid."
Namely, a plant that has parents of two different varieties, and which will not breed true. If one plant of that variety fertilizes another plant of that variety, the seeds will either be sterile, or will yield a totally different plant from the parents.
 
rainingcatzanddogs said:
It is grown a lot in Texas too. Done for the season by June. There is a difference though between a plant that is bred over consecutive seasons and one that has had its genes spliced with another plant so that it does not reproduce to match the characteristics of the mother plant.
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Genes spliced or the mean devil GMO'S is not Hybrid, use a Dictionary, any more than rooting a cutting is not the same as cloning in a lab, but a lot of people call rooting cloning to sound smart.
 
I know damned well what a GMO is. However it seems that you do not know the difference between a heirloom and an artificially created hybrid. Speaking of using a dictionary...

“Heirloom” describes a seed’s heritage, specifically a documented heritage of being passed down from generation to generation within a family or community. An heirloom variety of vegetable, fruit, or flower must be open-pollinated—or pollinated by insects, birds, wind, or other natural means—and “breed true,” or retain its original traits from one generation to the next.

While heirlooms are hybrids, not all hybrids are heirloom.
 
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DrHenley said:
Crabapple, we are using the more narrow definition of "hybrid."
Namely, a plant that has parents of two different varieties, and which will not breed true. If one plant of that variety fertilizes another plant of that variety, the seeds will either be sterile, or will yield a totally different plant from the parents.
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That is F1 hybrid, confirming one does not make the other untrue, but refusing to tell the whole truth, is why so many people can not grow food now.
The internet is one of the best & worst thing man has, science does not change with my or your opinion.
I have seed that my Father started saving & he passed twenty- two years ago, they hold true & freezing them can store them for years.
 
All heirlooms are hybrid & I am not going to fight you, stay in your rut & be silly.
I have the history & have read it, which started in Europe, before white man came to what is now USA.
 
Crabapple said:
Genes spliced or the mean devil GMO'S is not Hybrid, use a Dictionary, any more than rooting a cutting is not the same as cloning in a lab, but a lot of people call rooting cloning to sound smart.
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Cool your jets Crabapple. We're not all molecular biologists and we use the vernacular in many cases when biologists might have a more precise terminology.

So I looked in my dictionary. "F1 hybrid" wasn't in there.
The definition of "hybrid" is: "The offspring of two animals or plants or different races, breeds, varieties, species, or genera"
 
Crabapple said:
All heirloom seeds are hybrid, it is true they are not F1, but all seeds on the market today have been hybrid for the last 300 years,
some for thousand years.
Corn or maize was knee high grass, that was hybrided into a four to ten foot stalk of corn, so different, that botanist had to use DNA to track the mother plant down & it grows in Mexico today. View attachment 17199
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One could argue that technically, every seed ever in existence is "Hybrid".

Still does not define them as heirloom which is the topic of this thread. No purpose for your response other than to be argumentative.

Also word of caution. Aside from coming off as a horse's backside, not a very bright move to insult the intelligence of the moderators on any website.
 
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