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The criminal that did this was a satanist and his Family members were among the first victims . Notice both of these as well as most mass killers as far back as recorded were at that time in their life when they were going to have to start accepting responsibility for their life .
 
Instead of the schools worrying about gun shaped pop tarts, maybe there should be physiological testing held each year. These shooters don't just wake up and decide to go out and shoot a bunch of folks. They can spend less time and money teaching that is okay to pick your gender and more time testing for anti-social behavior and suppress anger. So tired of the assault weapon crap and the high capacity magazine crap.
 
I heard that police responded within 30 seconds because it happened in a busy "nightlife" part of town where there are always a lot cops around that time of night. According to the report I heard, all the shooting took place in under a minute. It shows we can't be relying on police in these situations because no matter how fast they can get there, the bad things happen faster.
 
Funny how the MSM is not screaming about the 50 shot in a Demo controlled --big time gun controlled cities. I guess they don't count, because the liberals control the city and that would prove their stupid gun control laws are not working.
 
robinjopo said:
He is pro Antifa and supports Elizabeth Warren
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He can be supporting flying saucers, for all I care.

I never approved of home schooling, but I completely understand and sympathize with parents when they pull their kids out of school.

When I was a kid, it was a problem when we were making out in the hallways, smoking in the bathroom, or getting busted making hashish pipes and bongs in shop class.

Now, teachers have to be armed, kids have anxiety attacks (along with the vomiting, diarrhea, and chronic nightmares to go along with this fear) because they're (legitimately, I might add) afraid of getting killed in math class, and politicians say the problem can be addressed with buckets of rocks.*

I would be scared shitless, too.

*According to a Pennsylvania school superintendant named David Hesel.
 
Kevin L said:
I never approved of home schooling, but I completely understand and sympathize with parents when they pull their kids out of school.
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Kevin, I didn't see anything that said this guy was home schooled? Do you have a reference?
 
TexasFreedom said:
Kevin, I didn't see anything that said this guy was home schooled? Do you have a reference?
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I don't know if he was home schooled or not, you just misunderstood me because I didn't express myself well.

I meant to indicate that I have problems with home schooling, but I can see why parents do it when they have to worry about crazy people coming into the school and killing their kids (Sandy Hook, Columbine, etc.).
 
Kevin L said:
He can be supporting flying saucers, for all I care.

I never approved of home schooling, but I completely understand and sympathize with parents when they pull their kids out of school.

When I was a kid, it was a problem when we were making out in the hallways, smoking in the bathroom, or getting busted making hashish pipes and bongs in shop class.

Now, teachers have to be armed, kids have anxiety attacks (along with the vomiting, diarrhea, and chronic nightmares to go along with this fear) because they're (legitimately, I might add) afraid of getting killed in math class, and politicians say the problem can be addressed with buckets of rocks.*

I would be scared shitless, too.

*According to a Pennsylvania school superintendant named David Hesel.
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Its not a then and now thing . Nothing is new with mass shootings or killings . You just have to search for reports that occurred before 24 hour news . We had warnings and " training " in the 1970's .
 
I know (I grew up in the 70s).

My point is now there is wider coverage with the Internet, the news, and so on....and it gets rubbed in peoples' faces more.

Also, I really do believe that there were fewer mass shootings like this in the past. Something has changed, and I don't know what it is. The gun laws seem more restrictive now than in the past. Drugs have always been around, and so has alcohol. Mental illness is better recognized today than in the past.

So, I don't know.

I am a gun collector and I enjoy shooting, but even I believe in certain limits.

It is--for example--perfectly legal to own a flamethrower (with no paperwork), which scares me. I think it's only a matter of time until some crazed maniac decides to spray flaming jellied gasoline all over the inside of a nightclub or school.

I got this in my email:
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$499.00.

I emailed the company back, and told them never to contact me again.

Also, I've been considering emailing my congressman with this and asking them to be proactive (not that it will do any good, but at least I'll have tried).
 
Kevin L said:
I know (I grew up in the 70s).

My point is now there is wider coverage with the Internet, the news, and so on....and it gets rubbed in peoples' faces more.

Also, I really do believe that there were fewer mass shootings like this in the past. Something has changed, and I don't know what it is. The gun laws seem more restrictive now than in the past. Drugs have always been around, and so has alcohol. Mental illness is better recognized today than in the past.

So, I don't know.

I am a gun collector and I enjoy shooting, but even I believe in certain limits.

It is--for example--perfectly legal to own a flamethrower (with no paperwork), which scares me. I think it's only a matter of time until some crazed maniac decides to spray flaming jellied gasoline all over the inside of a nightclub or school.

I got this in my email:
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$499.00.

I emailed the company back, and told them never to contact me again.

Also, I've been considering emailing my congressman with this and asking them to be proactive (not that it will do any good, but at least I'll have tried).
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Acan of hair spray works just as well, and it's only $5.95 plus tax.
 
Kevin L said:
I don't know if he was home schooled or not, you just misunderstood me because I didn't express myself well.
I meant to indicate that I have problems with home schooling, but I can see why parents do it when they have to worry about crazy people coming into the school and killing their kids (Sandy Hook, Columbine, etc.).
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Kevin,
I don't think that's the main reason at all why parents choose to homeschool. Yes, there are school shootings, but not near enough statistically to worry about it. Instead, I think there are 2 main reasons: 1) kids are trouble makers and parents basically declare 'homeschooling' instead of just letting the kid be a proper dropout. And #2) parents who want their children taught both properly and without the liberal bias. I'm not sure which group is bigger, but between them they dominate the 'reasons' list.

BTW, I have no idea how you can stop people from easy access to napalm. Styrofoam and gasoline, mix carefully. Does a wonderful job for the purpose intended (imbedded flaming incineration). It has it's place: it's a great way to get a stubborn burn pile going. And I suspect it'd work great on a cluster of Antifa morons (no loss there).
 
Prez Trump is Twittering that the bitch Dayton mayor is trying to screw him by throwing up all kinds of outrite lies & falsehoods about his Dayton area hospital visit >>> standing right along side was DNC candidate Brown who is one of the already dead 2020 DNC candidates ....

GOOD NEWS - Prez Trump went after Beto about his El Paso shooting election usage - blasting him royally - he's announced he's not going to Iowa now for his scheduled primary appearances >>> QUITTING ?????
 
TexasFreedom said:
Kevin,
I don't think that's the main reason at all why parents choose to homeschool. Yes, there are school shootings, but not near enough statistically to worry about it. Instead, I think there are 2 main reasons: 1) kids are trouble makers and parents basically declare 'homeschooling' instead of just letting the kid be a proper dropout. And #2) parents who want their children taught both properly and without the liberal bias. I'm not sure which group is bigger, but between them they dominate the 'reasons' list.

BTW, I have no idea how you can stop people from easy access to napalm. Styrofoam and gasoline, mix carefully. Does a wonderful job for the purpose intended (imbedded flaming incineration). It has it's place: it's a great way to get a stubborn burn pile going. And I suspect it'd work great on a cluster of Antifa morons (no loss there).
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Yes, you can make napalm from detergent and gasoline, or--as you indicated--from styrofoam and gasoline.

I can also make a gun from scratch with access to a machine shop.....or even from simple home tools.

This doesn't mean that I think flame throwers should be available to any psycho maniac who wants one.

We have rules to keep firearms out of crazy peoples' hands.....but a flame thrower? No problem!

As for home schooling, the parents I've spoken with are concerned about gun violence in schools, the ready availability of almost any drug you want, sexual assault by both students and faculty, and so on.

I don't approve of home schooling in principle for a few reasons:

1) We go to professionals (like a physician) if we have a health problem, or a professional (like an attorney) if we have a legal problem.....and I believe that education is so important that it must be handled by a professional.
2) Parents are not impartial, and may have unrealistic expectations of their children.
3) It's important for kids to associate with other kids to learn about being a team player.
4) If there is abuse in the home, teachers are an important first responder who can recognize this and get the ball rolling.
5) There is a difference between education and brainwashing, and this distinction is sometimes lost on some parents.

I believe that objectivity is important in education.

That having been said, I want to reiterate that the drugs, guns, gangs, and pedophile faculty that exist in many public schools (I'm in Florida, and schools are truly awful down here) would make home schooling look very, very good to me indeed....especially if I couldn't afford a private school.
 
Nanny state mindset. I am afraid so it should be banned. As pointed out by VJ, there are a lot of things that can cause harm, if improperly used. Quit blaming the tools and start doing something about the tool users.
 
Kevin L said:
I agree.

Still.....schools can be scarey for both kids and the grownups.
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I can still remember school even though the last time I was in school was 1974,,,,,,,and school was not a pleasant experience the bullying all the different little clicks no it was not any fun at all,,,,,,,,,but the kids,,most of them are stronger for it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there were some home schooled kids even back then and they were sheltered and not ready for the world when it came knocking,,,,,,,
 
I attended more schools than I care to count, different one almost every year, military brat. I was never afraid, because I had a backbone. The parents I know that home school do it because they know the school district are teaching liberal crap and they don't want their children exposed to it. These are the parents that take the time to stay involved in their children's education.

Why does a child need to learn to be a team player--- why not learn to be an exceptional player, a leader? Also home schooled kids are not isolated and prisoner in their houses. They participate in sports, many times through their churches. There are many public sporting leagues that do not require you to attend a school. The conception /myth of home schooling is for the cults and perverts is B.S. perpetrated by MSM to protect a failing school system. The home schooled kids I have met are far more advanced than their public school counter parts. Just like the gun control crap, the MSM blow it out of proportion and do not do their due diligence to show the other side of the coin. I am advocating for my grandchildren to be home schooled or attend private schools. They need to avoid the propaganda.
 
Urbanprep said:
Nanny state mindset. I am afraid so it should be banned. As pointed out by VJ, there are a lot of things that can cause harm, if improperly used. Quit blaming the tools and start doing something about the tool users.
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I agree.

As an example, Britain banned almost every kind of gun, and there were only 63 recorded total gun deaths in 2017 for a country of 68 million people.

However.......

Criminals (especially carjackers) started using jars of concentrated sulfuric acid as a weapon. They walk up to somebody, throw the acid in their face, and then drive off in their new car while some poor slob (usually a defenseless woman) is permanently disfigured, and left writhing in agony.

So, the gun deaths have gone down, but the overall numbers for violent crime are still the same.....as acid has replaced firearms.
 
Urbanprep said:
I attended more schools than I care to count, different one almost every year, military brat. I was never afraid, because I had a backbone. The parents I know that home school do it because they know the school district are teaching liberal crap and they don't want their children exposed to it. These are the parents that take the time to stay involved in their children's education.

Why does a child need to learn to be a team player--- why not learn to be an exceptional player, a leader? Also home schooled kids are not isolated and prisoner in their houses. They participate in sports, many times through their churches. There are many public sporting leagues that do not require you to attend a school. The conception /myth of home schooling is for the cults and perverts is B.S. perpetrated by MSM to protect a failing school system. The home schooled kids I have met are far more advanced than their public school counter parts. Just like the gun control crap, the MSM blow it out of proportion and do not do their due diligence to show the other side of the coin. I am advocating for my grandchildren to be home schooled or attend private schools. They need to avoid the propaganda.
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Like I said, I disagree with home schooling as a matter of principle.....but I also said that I wouldn't want kids exposed to drugs, gangs, pedophiles, and guns. Florida schools truly suck.

I believe--even if you disagree with me--that I'm being fair on the issue.

I know what goes on in public schools because I ran 911 calls on them.
 
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You don't stop crime by banning tools of crime. You slow down (will never be completely stopped)crime by eliminating the criminals. The more criminals that get eliminated permanently, the few crimes and certainly no repeat offenders.
 
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