Could Rail Strike Next Week Bring Economy to a Grinding Halt?

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Rhian L'Arson

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The coming strike by 90,000 railroad workers on September 16 could bring 30% of the nation's freight to a grinding halt. The strike could mean empty shelves in stores, temporary closures at factories that don't have the parts they need to operate, and higher prices due to limited availability of consumer goods.
 
The coming strike by 90,000 railroad workers on September 16 could bring 30% of the nation's freight to a grinding halt. The strike could mean empty shelves in stores, temporary closures at factories that don't have the parts they need to operate, and higher prices due to limited availability of consumer goods.
That may not be a bad thing. The Democrats support the unions and people tend to vote from their wallets. Shortages and higher prices just before the midterms could and should be lade at the feet of the Democrats. They will be caught in a no win position. Support the union and watch the cost of living go through the roof OR override the union and upset their union base. Either way works for me.
 
I don't know about you, but I prefer a system where everyone is free to make as much money as possible. Those workers are just trying to do what good capitalist should do, try to get the highest price they can for the product they are selling. Shouldn't preppers see it as an opportunity to use their expertise to help strikers survive as long as possible while not working?
 
The coming strike by 90,000 railroad workers on September 16 could bring 30% of the nation's freight to a grinding halt. The strike could mean empty shelves in stores, temporary closures at factories that don't have the parts they need to operate, and higher prices due to limited availability of consumer goods.
It looks like there potentially is a huge untapped market for prepper services out there. Preppers don't have to agree with their politics to take their money.
 
sooner or later someone's gonna figure out how to sell survivalism to a bigger market. There are a lot of disgruntled workers out there. The longer they can survive without a steady paycheck, the more bargaining power they have.
 
I'm opposed to anything that will raise prices, or cause disruptions in getting products. My wife and I are retired and trying to live off my SS, she's still years away from SS, and our investments. We don't have any other income. Thanks to Biden and his communist regime, our investments have dropped by almost 40%. And no way to make up for it. Our medical costs keep going up too. So, I have zero sympathy for anyone making the kind of money that RR and UPS employees make.
 
All members of the working class, even well paid union workers, need firearms, disaster preparedness, medicine, logistics, agriculture, and other skills for self and community defense.
 
I don't know about you, but I prefer a system where everyone is free to make as much money as possible. Those workers are just trying to do what good capitalist should do, try to get the highest price they can for the product they are selling. Shouldn't preppers see it as an opportunity to use their expertise to help strikers survive as long as possible while not working?

Back when I was in HS, we were assigned an opinion piece to write on a debatable topic. One of those was minimum wage. One of the gals in the class wrote a paper entitled "Why I Should Be Paid Like a Doctor." It was satire.

Her point was that some jobs can be done by most 14 year olds, and some cannot. Those that can, are not worth as much as those that cannot.

The more people who can do that job, or learn in a relatively short period of time to do it, the lower the pay. Not all jobs are equal unless you subscribe to Karl Marx's theories.

If you want to become a millionaire, come up with a great idea, and start a business. If you want to be a millionaire, do what my mother did working as a receptionist for a realtor during the last 30 years of her life; Provide more value to the company than the next person. Live below your means. Teach yourself how the real economy actually works (vs what this administration is trying to force feed you) and invest your money wisely.
 
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I don't know about you, but I prefer a system where everyone is free to make as much money as possible. Those workers are just trying to do what good capitalist should do, try to get the highest price they can for the product they are selling. Shouldn't preppers see it as an opportunity to use their expertise to help strikers survive as long as possible while not working?
Sure Rhian, everyone should make enough money to live well. Why don't we just raise the minimum wage up to something meaningful, say $100 an hour? Wouldn't that be great?
 
Workers are in the business of selling a product someone wants. The product they sell is their labor time. Like any business, sometimes they raise the price. Sometimes businesses cooperate to get the highest price like OPEC does with oil. When workers do it it's a union. It's not a matter of fair or unfair just supply and demand.
 
So are they not expected to reach an agreement prior to deadline? It doesn't make sense that Congress would not intervene if they dont. Seems like would be big blow to the Dems. Right before midterms to not intervene. I cant see this fully happening. Even the strikers gotta eat. I'm sure very few if any of them have the preparedness means to sustain cutting off their nose to spite their face. I realize even a temporary Interruption would be terrible, but I'm holding out they are gonna settle their grievances or at least congress is going to intervene. Sounds just plain stupid not to. Unless they find a way to blame it on Trump or Putin, I can't see the dems taking the fall for not doing so. I'd guess there will be consequences for all of us either way.

I'd expect out of the Dems something along the line of...put fear in the people and then step in as if they saved the day type scenario. That way the people will have some suffering or at least fear of what could have happened, and then thank them and kiss their ass for "bringing us back from the brink".so to speak. Unless they indeed have a bigger plan for everything else to come tumbling down, Why would they not do that? Or something similar?
 
The labor market is like other markets where supply and demand determine the price. Those with market power influence the price by manipulating supply and demand. They are price makers. They dictate the price for their product. Those with no market power just have to accept the price. Since no individual workers have market power alone, they cooperate as a union to get collective market power and set their price. You personally may not like it, but the market doesn't care about your feelings.
 
Workers are in the business of selling a product someone wants. The product they sell is their labor time. Like any business, sometimes they raise the price. Sometimes businesses cooperate to get the highest price like OPEC does with oil. When workers do it it's a union. It's not a matter of fair or unfair just supply and demand.

Everything is worth only as much as someone is willing to pay for it.

Time is not the commodity to be sold with a high value, skill is.

Everyone has time in varying and unknown amounts; it is not a unique product. What you can produce with that time is what differentiates $1 per hour from $1000 ph.
 
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Prices don't reward workers based on their skills. They only signal what skills are most in demand and the costs of different options. Prices change rapidly in response to new sources of supply and new products. Volatile prices are always randomly pulling the rug out from under even the most skilled workers. However skilled they are, workers can't count on their skills being rewarded in the market. Being highly skilled might improve their odds, but luck is also a big factor.

The idea that unskilled workers get what they deserve is not true. The inequality of bargaining power between workers and employers puts workers under more pressure to sell their labor than employers are under to buy it. Employers can hold out longer because they have more money and better alternatives. That means employers have more power to not take the deal and so they get better terms.
 
Prices don't reward workers based on their skills. They only signal what skills are most in demand and the costs of different options. Prices change rapidly in response to new sources of supply and new products. Volatile prices are always randomly pulling the rug out from under even the most skilled workers. However skilled they are, workers can't count on their skills being rewarded in the market. Being highly skilled might improve their odds, but luck is also a big factor.

The idea that unskilled workers get what they deserve is not true. The inequality of bargaining power between workers and employers puts workers under more pressure to sell their labor than employers are under to buy it. Employers can hold out longer because they have more money and better alternatives. That means employers have more power to not take the deal and so they get better terms.


Curious question. Have you ever run a business. Have you ever employed someone?

What pulls the rug out from workers, is inflation, not employers. IF you do not like who you are working for, the conditions, the pay the benefits, you are a free agent. Quit your job and look elsewhere. In this market where good labor is in demand, if what you are doing is worth so much, if you cannot be easily replaced, then you should be able to find a new employer who will give you what you want. If not, then maybe your "skill" isn't as rich and rare as you thought.

Unions are no better than a mob with pitchforks and torches, standing outside a building demanding things or else...

Until the governments stop printing money out of thin air, working people will continue to see themselves shafted. We all will except those at the top of government, responsible for creating it, who then line their own pockets with our tax dollars. Nancy Pelosi and her 120 million dollar "public servant" fortune comes to mind. Bernie Sanders is another one...Joe Biden...the list is long and spans both parties.
 
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When the government quits supporting people that don't want to work, then you will see the real value of skill vs. unskilled. Working in a fast food industry (burger flipper) does not require much skill and is certainly not worth the high labor costs. The problem is the government is supporting those that don't want to work. I used to change jobs (companies) about every two to three years. I typically got a 10 percent raise by doing this vs. the 2 or 3 % raise I would have gotten by staying. If you have skills, you have options. Unions are a complete waste of time and money now. In the distant past they had a place, now they are just there to protect the useless. AND yes, I have been a union member in the past and they were a liability to the employees.
 
The labor market is like other markets where supply and demand determine the price. Those with market power influence the price by manipulating supply and demand. They are price makers. They dictate the price for their product. Those with no market power just have to accept the price. Since no individual workers have market power alone, they cooperate as a union to get collective market power and set their price. You personally may not like it, but the market doesn't care about your feelings.

I have to disagree. I have negotiated one on one and got what I was asking for, which included guaranteed benefits like health insurance and vacation time.
"Supply and Demand" - I could supply something (expertise) they had a demand for. It did not involve any other employees, and there were no other employees with that expertise. That would not have been possible with a union.

With unions you often end up with employees that don't have anything of value to supply for the company, and the company doesn't have any demand for it. But they have to hire those employees because of the union and then they can't get rid of them.
 
The highly skilled expert in some field in the US will be laid off tomorrow and his job will be offshored to an equally highly skilled worker in China or India.

The least qualified person for a well paid job will fail up and get hired because of his of his rich daddy's connections. The turds float to the top.

The highly skilled, highly paid doctors and lawyers have their own unions, the American Medical Association and the American Bar Association. They only earn such high salaries because their unions act as gatekeepers to manipulate the supply and demand for their labor.
 
Prices don't reward workers based on their skills. They only signal what skills are most in demand and the costs of different options. Prices change rapidly in response to new sources of supply and new products. Volatile prices are always randomly pulling the rug out from under even the most skilled workers. However skilled they are, workers can't count on their skills being rewarded in the market. Being highly skilled might improve their odds, but luck is also a big factor.

The idea that unskilled workers get what they deserve is not true. The inequality of bargaining power between workers and employers puts workers under more pressure to sell their labor than employers are under to buy it. Employers can hold out longer because they have more money and better alternatives. That means employers have more power to not take the deal and so they get better terms.
I will give you an example: I have an “employee”, a part-time ranch hand. He lives in my home, rent free. I provide him with 3 home cooked meals, often of his personal requests, seven days a week, no charge.

I do his laundry and buy his work clothing, gloves, jackets, pants, boots, Dickies. He has free use of a vehicle for both business and personal use. I pay his medical bills from work related injuries.

He gets paid nothing in cash outside of these things all of which in our area at current prices, adds up to be about $4000 a month, not including MY LABOR (I work for free essentially).

Not bad for a part time gig. He doesn’t have much free time because he earns money at a full time job as well. So he generally works 70 hour weeks. I work both independent of him and by his side doing the exact same work or more.

This has been our arrangement for almost five years now. In that time, housing costs have increased $2000 a month (1 br apt). The cost of feeding him has gone up $500 a month. Insurance on the vehicle he drives has gone up $100 a month and the cost of his clothing has gone up $1200 a year.

In essence, I am paying $3000 a month more than I did back when he started just FIVE years ago. 75% of the increases have happened in the last two years.

In essence he has gotten a raise of $36,000 a year from us since he started and I am out that same amount if expressed on a balance sheet.

Additionally, because of the stupidity of this administration and their quest for chasing their white whale of “climate apocalypse”, the costs of producing have increased by 50%, the price we get at market is down 20% . I would like to know, where is MY RAISE? Where should I, as "an employer" picket? The Dutch farmers have the right idea.

What will grind the economy to a halt is not the rail workers strike. It is inflation, never ending printing press and a complete disregard for how the economy works.
 
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The highly skilled expert in some field in the US will be laid off tomorrow and his job will be offshored to an equally highly skilled worker in China or India.

The least qualified person for a well paid job will fail up and get hired because of his of his rich daddy's connections. The turds float to the top.

The highly skilled, highly paid doctors and lawyers have their own unions, the American Medical Association and the American Bar Association. They only earn such high salaries because their unions act as gatekeepers to manipulate the supply and demand for their labor.
A company can't hire who they want to here because of the unions which is the VERY REASON those jobs are going to China.

Yeah, I worked for a company that had a useless daddy's little turd who sat in his office and planned his next hunting trip.

He was a pariah in the company. Everyone despised him and he knew it.
Daddy was the president of the company, and was not happy his son knew nothing about how the company operated and had no rapport with the employees. He fretted about the future of the company.

I walked into his daddy's office and asked that he put his son under me so I could teach him some things about the company. I was not even in management BTW. I was practically a nobody in that company.

He did! I made the little turd work, and taught him how things were manufactured out in the factory. He actually enjoyed it. People began to respect him. Take a wild guess at how grateful you think his father was?

This is the way you become so indispensable to a company you can walk in and demand things - all it takes is a little ingenuity and some moxie. Find out what the needs and wants are of the management, and fix them. These are things that aren't allowed in union shops...
 
My daughter when she was in HS worked after school at a fast food restaurant. One day some dumba$$ went into the bathroom and trashed it, plugged up the latrine, flooded the sink onto the floor...a real mess.

It was rush hour dinner time so the manager asked my daughter (low girl on the totem pole) to go clean it up and make it useable. Yes, the restaurant had a cleaning service, but, they would not be in for many hours at closing. It wasn't in her job description but, she did it anyway without any lip. Next paycheck, she had gotten a nice raise.

Within two years she was the hostess/head waitress at a fancy steak house, making enough to get her own apartment at 18. Bought her first house at 20. Again, no union needed.

This is also how my son went from car detailer at 17 to head mechanic at the local Toyota dealership before his 27th birthday. Bought his first house at 22 and now owns a Tesla that I can't afford. The money he would have had to pay for dues to some mechanics union stayed in his pocket for HIS family's use.

Unions exist anymore to protect lazy-azz whiners who would otherwise be unemployed. If you are willing to work your ass off 9-5, have a reasonable IQ and not an EQ that allows for constant butt-hurt, go out of your way to do an outstanding job for each customer and the company, stop making complaining your full time job, and live within your means, you can become anything you want to in this country, even a millionaire.
 
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