WW3 And Preppers preparations

[Brent S]

Don't kid yourself, that war was never about liberating Kuwait. It was all about getting Saddam out of power, due to the threat he posed in his push to get rid of the petro-dollar. This goal, is basically the endgame behind all of our military actions after the Cold War. Whether Syria, Afghanistan, etc.

There are always more things going on behind the scenes. Considering how disfunctional our govt is at most things, I sure hope they have a game plan with all that's going on over there.

 

[Warriorhealer22]

Ha! Remember why the rich slave owning land owners wanted to be free of British rule- "Taxation without Representation" they called it. Well, look at what we have now "with representation" Remember who really built this country- the poor men and women who bent and toiled and labored, not the names we learned in history books.

 

[Gazrok]

I sure hope they have a game plan with all that's going on over there.

Bad as it sounds, personally, I think that ISIS is the best thing to ever happen for our power brokers in DC... Keeps our enemies awake at night thinking they could lose power without the big bad Satanic USA in the area keeping ISIS in check.

Make no mistake, we could wipe out ISIS in a heartbeat, but frankly, I'm sure our leaders realize that to serve our own interests, it's better to keep them there as a threat to keep the others in line and playing ball with our own interests (preventing Russian natural gas pipelines, etc.). I would hope the leaders in ISIS are smart enough to realize this too, and avoid actions that would further require more direct US action. Tick off the American public too much, and the leaders will have no choice but to slam down the fist.

Don't get me wrong, personally, I still say wipe 'em out....but right now, I think to our leaders, they are serving a purpose they are still being used for.

 

[Warriorhealer22]

As far as ISIS is concerned, I am at a crossroads. On one hand, who are we as Americans that we should judge other groups, have we not learned from our experience with the American Indian? On the other hand, since we are the only single nation capable of policing this menace, do we not have the moral imperative to do what is right? Is congress upset that Iran is offering aid to Iraq? Maybe we should let this play out and see what happens. Enough American lives have been destroyed physically and emotionally in that part of the world. I know, I've seen it first hand. Do we tear more of our families apart for them? My prayers go out to the average citizen over there who just wants what we all want. Some so called freedom, a meal and the comfort of family.

 

[Brent S]

As far as ISIS is concerned, I am at a crossroads. On one hand, who are we as Americans that we should judge other groups, have we not learned from our experience with the American Indian? On the other hand, since we are the only single nation capable of policing this menace, do we not have the moral imperative to do what is right? Is congress upset that Iran is offering aid to Iraq? Maybe we should let this play out and see what happens. Enough American lives have been destroyed physically and emotionally in that part of the world. I know, I've seen it first hand. Do we tear more of our families apart for them? My prayers go out to the average citizen over there who just wants what we all want. Some so called freedom, a meal and the comfort of family.

It is a hard situation. If their not stopped the cockroaches will be all over the globe causing destruction. I do think that other countries need to be involved more though. I don't think we can afford to be the world police alone anymore. I've always felt for the average person over their. Like you said, most just want some peace and safety for their family just like we do.

 

[Maverick]

Oil and money have created the viper pits of the middle east/africa, the developed nations have become to reliant on the middle east creating the quid pro quo, now that we removed the snake handlers sadam, gaddafi and possibly bashar, throwing morsi under the bus and now egypt friends with iran giving iran more of an opportunity to push it's influence, iran has always been the trouble maker since 79' and now we have given them what they have sought, we have removed the check and balances from this region opening up the viper pits that is far more dangerous then what we have had to deal with in the past. Since when has anyone ever tamed a viper and never been bit? Today they are spewing onto our streets.

 

[psalm 7]

Its not like we can isolate from the islamic terrorist , they are growing in our cities and prison's now . As far as isis would I tell a Christian from Iraq or Sirya that Im your Christian Brother I know they buried your young Children alive , I know they crusafied your oldest son for others to see , I know they took your Daughters as Wives for thier army , I know they made your Wife a slave , I know what a terrible life your Wife and Daughters are living now , I know they destroy'ed the centuries old Church you attended and your ancestors were part of the original Apostals Church . But We must avoid War . With Brothers like that they don't need eneny's Waite till they are bombing and shooting our families in shopping malls here .

 

[Maverick]

A coalition of 8 countries including pakistan and jordon headed by saudi arabia and egypt, the saudi/egyptian coalition is gearing to go in to yemen, the saudis are all ready bombing the shiites in yemen, saudis have just mobilized 150,000 troops to go into yemen and now we have a proxy war between the saudis and iran, the entire middle east is about to blow into a full blown shiites and sunnis war....

 

[tc556guy]

Thought i might gauge the responses of fellow preppers and how they are prepping for WW3 if and when it breaks out

I might be "out" of the military now, but they own me via the retired reserve for several more years. if something *big* happened on a national scale, I'm willing to bet that old guys like me would find themselves pressed back into service in some form, even if we are too far along to be deployed again. In WW2 they were using old war vets to guard vital US installations as I recall.
Other than that, if something *big* were to happen, your response would depend on what the tipping point event was that led to the current situation. I don't foresee a physical attack on US mainland soil, but I wouldn't put it past someone like North Koreas leader I Am Fat to detonate a dirty bomb or try to knock out our grids with EMP. You could find yourself completely unscathed or a refugee. All you can do is prepare for a bad day and hope that events do not prove your preparations to be inadequate

 

[Brent S]

I might be "out" of the military now, but they own me via the retired reserve for several more years. if something *big* happened on a national scale, I'm willing to bet that old guys like me would find themselves pressed back into service in some form, even if we are too far along to be deployed again. In WW2 they were using old war vets to guard vital US installations as I recall.
Other than that, if something *big* were to happen, your response would depend on what the tipping point event was that led to the current situation. I don't foresee a physical attack on US mainland soil, but I wouldn't put it past someone like North Koreas leader I Am Fat to detonate a dirty bomb or try to knock out our grids with EMP. You could find yourself completely unscathed or a refugee. All you can do is prepare for a bad day and hope that events do not prove your preparations to be inadequate

I have no illusions that if the government decided to, all veterans, and civilians for that matter are subject to duty. My main concern is how bad would it have to be for them to call back 50+ years olds. I think it was Einstein that said "I'm not sure what weapons WW111 will be fought with, but WW1v will be fought with sticks and stones." We have too many nukes in the world, it's only a matter of time before they are used again. Humans, we think we are the smartest species.....
By the way, happy Memorial Day.

 

[tc556guy]

I have no illusions that if the government decided to, all veterans, and civilians for that matter are subject to duty. My main concern is how bad would it have to be for them to call back 50+ years olds. I think it was Einstein that said "I'm not sure what weapons WW111 will be fought with, but WW1v will be fought with sticks and stones." We have too many nukes in the world, it's only a matter of time before they are used again. Humans, we think we are the smartest species.....
By the way, happy Memorial Day.

Thanks
If you recall there were stories in the media that the military was so short on some specialties in Afghanistan and Iraq there were recalled pilots whose rated aircraft weren't even flying anymore.
I would say if they were recalling guys out of the retired reserves as a practice that its gotten pretty bad at that point.
As to the decision to use nukes...hopefully if they were used on us I would hope our remaining leadership wouldn't waffle on a proper level of retaliation.
My concern there is that Obama is NOT an adequate leader and that he is placing the nation in harms way through the decisions he is making about our own nuclear arsenal and how he deals with other nuclear capable nations
And thanks about the holiday

 

[Gazrok]

Google on the BMDS, it might put your mind at ease somewhat. Granted, nothing is perfect, but it is pretty frickin' amazing. And that's just with what they are actually telling us. I have it on decent authority there is at least two additional major components that are not in the public narrative...namely ground-based and space-based HELs. (though the space-based ones are closing in on their projected service life, and don't have some of the advances of the more recent ones).

 

[Maverick]

Google on the BMDS, it might put your mind at ease somewhat. Granted, nothing is perfect, but it is pretty frickin' amazing. And that's just with what they are actually telling us. I have it on decent authority there is at least two additional major components that are not in the public narrative...namely ground-based and space-based HELs. (though the space-based ones are closing in on their projected service life, and don't have some of the advances of the more recent ones).

My understanding with the advancement of the railgun (sea trials now) it will be incorporated into the BMDS in 5 years.

 

[Silent Bob]

In the First Gulf War, it looked like the Army literally pulled some from the old folks home and VA retirement villa. I had one Colonel, a surgeon, who was already capped beyond his inactive reserve commitment pulled back to practice medicine state-side. He was one of the last to be deactivated after all the active duty components had completed their leave time. In our office alone, one of my airman who was not world wide qualified to deploy because he was recovering from a torn ACL and knee replacement, stated that our office was at one time in November 1990, filled at 400 percent of the manning standards with senior officers and noncoms. It was so sad, that he was trying to comply with every directive, which often was countermanded by another officer or NCO. Poor guy was a nervous wreck before we got back and only did one hitch because of this crappy experience.

So while I have been off inactive reserve for about a year and half now, I don't place any belief that they can't just yank my butt back in. They have my address and telephone number. One of my former troops told me that he would immediately find a way to get me back if the SHTF. I told him to lose my number, because I'd disappear off the scope. Either way, they screw with my retirement pay, then I guess I'd have to show up.

 

[Gazrok]

My understanding with the advancement of the railgun (sea trials now) it will be incorporated into the BMDS in 5 years.

Which means we've likely been using it for 10....

I mean, they had a pretty good bead on that tech for a long time. The recent Navy test, I think the projectile went like Mach 7. The trick has always been the gun survival after a few shots. But, for a BMDS situation, that may not even be a factor, as it's a "just in case" kind of thing.

The replacement for the Burke component of the BMDS is already sporting THELs (Tactical High Energy Lasers). Then there are the Boeing mounted ones as well. Doesn't even consider the rumored THEL semi trucks. Kind of the perfect incognito solution.

 

[Maverick]

At over 5k mph with a distant of 250 miles and lets not forget the x-43a scramjet at over 7k mph

 

[Gazrok]

That kind of lead into the X-51, it's replacement. But even that was more of a test bed vehicle for the engines. Supposedly, the tech will be used in next gen high speed strike weapons, but we'll see. I personally see it being used more for unmanned spy missions.