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Hey guys! Since we are at a boiling point with NK, i've scratched my head wondering.... I've read they are capable of launching an emp against us. If that ever happened, do you think the givernment would tell us? How much time do u think we would have before it hits?
 
No our government woukd not warn us. Our government is out of control and no longer serves the people. Our gevernment is lost and not enough of us is willing to fight to get it back. They would use tge event to gain more power over us and increase there control of all resources.
 
It just sabre rattling by both sides, NK knows that 8 minutes after it launched it would be turned into radioactive glass, I laugh at the little fat buggers rantings. One point I would make is its very hypocritical for one nation that has nuclear weapons and whose allies have nuclear weapons to object to another country wanting the same. Especially since that country is the only one in history to actually use one in anger. If the US doesnt want other countries to be nuclear armed they need to get rid of their own first.

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I dont know why the US still has military in SK, its costing the US billlions of dollars each year for ZERO return. SK has stated that no matter what NK does it wont allow the US to attack the north. The US should cut SK ( and the Fillipines) loose and if it needs a base in the far east expand the base on Australias northern territory where they would be among friends. SK does not deserve American support.
 
It just sabre rattling by both sides, NK knows that 8 minutes after it launched it would be turned into radioactive glass, I laugh at the little fat buggers rantings. One point I would make is its very hypocritical for one nation that has nuclear weapons and whose allies have nuclear weapons to object to another country wanting the same. Especially since that country is the only one in history to actually use one in anger. If the US doesnt want other countries to be nuclear armed they need to get rid of their own first.
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I dont know why the US still has military in SK, its costing the US billlions of dollars each year for ZERO return. SK has stated that no matter what NK does it wont allow the US to attack the north. The US should cut SK ( and the Fillipines) loose and if it needs a base in the far east expand the base on Australias northern territory where they would be among friends. SK does not deserve American support.

I can't disagree more. Allow me to explain my view.
First, your comment that the US should disarm is absolute insanity. Reagan said it well: peace through strength and ultimately peace through victory. And he did exactly that, he ended the cold war with great victory and not a bullet fired. And he sure didn't disarm in getting there. Peace through strength is the only thing that works.

A counter example: Europe has disarmed its citizens. How is that working for rapes? Women, disarmed, vulnerable are getting raped in mass. If only 1 in 10 women carried a handgun, how many dead rapists would it take to stop this crime?

And SK is a key location for US military. It's not just about NK, but China. The US can have nukes aimed at China from only 100's of miles away. Well I'm sure not 'officially', but we all know they are there & ready. Australia isn't always our best ally, and having choices matters.
 
TF I never said the US SHOULD disarm I said its hypocritical for A to have nukes and to have used them whilst objecting to B having the same. So if US peace is maintained by nukes you cannot object to other countries wanting exactly the same.

I agree about gun ownership however in the US over 30,000 people are shot each year, including armed citizens and cops, so we have more rapes but far less shootings.

Three SK is a poor ally they have already said that if NK attacks US assets they wont allow US shore based assets attack NK

FYI The US sits with Sweden and Finland ALL three armed as well as the UK disarmed as having the highest rape figures in the world
http://www.wonderslist.com/top-10-countries-with-maximum-rape-crimes/

According to George Mason University, Worldwide Sexual Assault Statistics, 1 in 3 American women will be sexually abused during their lifetime. About 19.3% of women and 2% of men have been raped at least once in their lives. Additionally, an estimated 43.9% of women and 23.4% of men experienced other forms of sexual violence during their lifetimes. Many victims of sexual abuse were victimized at a young age, about 79% were first raped before age 25, and 40% before age 18. (usatoday).

According to RAIIN, Every 107 seconds, someone in the United States is sexually assaulted. There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year. 68% of sexual assaults are not reported to the police. 98% of rapists will never spend a day in jail.

Rape And Sexual Assault Among College-Age: An average (65,668+ & 2,866+) college-age women and men experienced a rape sexual assault annually. More than a quarter of college-age women report having experienced a rape or rape attempt since age 14. Out of all, only 16% of the total cases are reported. Females ages 18 to 24 had higher rates of rape and sexual assault than females in other age groups. Rate of rape crime is 1.2 times higher for nonstudents than students. Female students were more likely to experience rape or sexual assault victimization away from home, while nonstudents were more likely to be at home. Among females living in rural areas, the rate of rape and sexual assault victimization was almost 2 times higher for non-students. (Bureau of Justice Statistics).

UK
The 2006ā€“07 Crime Survey for England and Wales (formerly the British Crime Survey) reports that 1 in every 200 women were raped in that period. It also showed that only 800 people were convicted of rape crimes that same year, meaning that less than 1 in every 100 occurrences of rape led to a conviction.[17][263] According to the 2015 Crime Survey for England and Wales, from January 2015 to Dec 2015, there were 34,000 incidences of rape.[264]

According to the NCPCC, 1 in 20 children have been sexually abused in the UK.[265] 12% of boys and 3% of girls reported committing sexual violence against their partners.[266] In 2013, a Ministry of Justice report stated that only 15 per cent of victims of the most serious sexual offences reported the incident to the police.[267]

A Rape Crisis survey found that one third of the 1000 women surveyed thought that if a woman did not fight back, then she could not have experienced rape; while 60% thought that a woman could not have experienced rape if she didn't say 'no'.[268]

According to the charity Rape Crisis 85,000 women and 12,000 men are raped each year in England and Wales, and only 15% of victims chose to report the crime to police.[269]
 
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Soooo you guys are raping and shooting each other and we are raping and stabbing each other :) Cant include Texas, Wales or Sweden as the victims are usually four legged.
 
Don't worry about the grid/EMP, worrying spends energy and misdirects from the most important stuff. Their are no radioactive fallout from a HEMP! Many of us dealt with these fears back in the 50s, 60s and the 70s, to a lessor extent the early 80s.

Prepare with items that don't require the grid, their is nothing one can do except take responsibilities of their own life and that of wife and kids. The enemy is going to do what its going to do, the government is going to do what it needs to do, you need to do what you need to do. Don't stress over and don't go all out to protect yourself from an EMP given most everything we think we know is hypothetical, that's a lot of energy spent and money on a chance.

"the reality is that no one really knows what will happen and what can be done

this is not something we have had a lot of real world experience with"

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2017/0...ons-over-lapses-in-us-grid-security-rise.html
 
Something to realize about NK.

They have NOTHING to gain by actually carrying out their threats. This is important to realize.

However, they have EVERYTHING to gain by MAKING the threats. For decades, they have been REWARDED by the West for doing this. It's like a puppy begging for food. If you keep giving it scraps, it's going to keep begging. NK is NO different here. His family has made it a business practice to threaten the West, and then the West pays them off, in food, medicine, and/or cash or credit.

THIS is why they make the threats. Trump is absolutely right to stop the gravy train (but absolutely wrong, in ramping up the rhetoric). The best logical and psychological response to NK's lunacy and threats...is to simply IGNORE them...but they can't, because then they will give the appearance of inaction.

That all said, Google on BMDS (or Ballistic Missile Defense System). There are at least FIVE different opportunities we have to destroy inbound missiles (or any other air or space delivered EMP weapon). I wouldn't worry about it too much.
 
I'm not so much concerned about NK hitting CONUS. But they could wreak havoc in Japan, SK, and Guam.

I read somewhere the SK has some graphite "Blackout Bombs" they might drop on NK, which will short out the power stations without doing any other physical damage.

Not really sure whether most of NK would even notice if their "grid" goes down.
 
Thing is, the only grid that matters in NK (the military)...is likely buried under a lot of rock.

Interestingly enough, NK is extremely "dug in". An air campaign would stop NK from doing something to anyone else, but it really won't take out their ground military forces that well (as they'd be in under mountain bunkers and tunnels). But it would pin them down.

Sadly, you'd need a lot of ground forces (and casualties) to take him out conventionally. To be honest, the most logical method would be to simply take out the fields, etc. that would supply the military. But, those same fields supply the people too, so that's a dicey move politically.

So, your best NK combat strategy, both militarily and politically speaking, would be to:

1. Use air and naval power to destroy their air and naval power.
2. Deny them the use of their airspace through said air power.
3. Consistently bomb (conventionally) C&C centers, and other, soft military targets to deny their use/repair.
4. Wait them out. Soldiers will get tired of getting bombed all day, not getting paid, eating stored rations, etc.

And, do it all without ticking off China. It would take a major act of stupidity on NK's part, to go far enough to where even China says OK....

An even more ideal solution, some NK general working for the Chinese stages a coup and takes over, as a lapdog for China. To be honest, I'm still surprised that hasn't happened in all these years. It seems like an easy win for China.
 
Folks have to realize how much the US spends on defense, and just how vast and ever present those forces are. We have installations all over the globe, and can respond to a threat pretty much anywhere, in a matter of minutes in the case of a missile, hours in the case of other forces.

Other nations just don't even begin to compare here, due to the trillions we've put into this over the past few decades. It's not a boast, or anything, it's just simple logistics.

The unique geographical position of the actual Continental US, is another key factor. It's just hard to reach us, especially without us seeing the threat coming. And that's where all that capability comes into play. Squashing any threat.

Now, China and Russia have put a lot into theirs too, but still, it just doesn't compare. (they also went the smarter route of letting us spend billions and do the research, and then stealing it for peanuts). At least we ripped off Stealth from the Russians, lol! (they had the science for it, we just APPLIED it)...

The vast majority of NK's war machine....we had at the end of WW2....
 
looks like the fat boy is covering his ###,as much as he can by placing his sister in power...
 
Or, instead of a quick assassination, one of his enemies has poisoned/diseased, etc. him instead, so they had to be reactive.

Can't let the people discover our godlike leader was poisoned, sickened, or some other mere mortal malady.....

If nothing else, it buys time....
 

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