jimLE
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i spent some summers in FL..i remmeber the rains.if theres one small rain cloud in the sky,it'll down pour.if not dureing the summer..then its out right hot out.
What are the ultimate DD foods and why?
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Overlord
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Am planning to get a 240-serve (+56-serve bonus) package from Wise Foods as a final back-up (this would not be part of my rotating stocks). What is your opinion?
I have quite a bit invested in freeze dried foods,mostly Saratoga Farms and Mountain House.While I don't think they are the greatest thing ever when it comes to flavor,but,for the ease of preparing and the shelf life,they're not bad at all.However,you do pay for that convienence.
But now on the other hand,I also garden and can a bunch of my own stuff for a fraction of the price.Just this week alone i've canned tomatoes,veggie soup,chili,salsa and green beans.In my opinion,my own foods are much better and far cheaper,but requires quite a bit more effort.
But now on the other hand,I also garden and can a bunch of my own stuff for a fraction of the price.Just this week alone i've canned tomatoes,veggie soup,chili,salsa and green beans.In my opinion,my own foods are much better and far cheaper,but requires quite a bit more effort.
Overlord
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I would say that if it is moderately good, then that is okay since we just need to survive and not really be that gourmet about it.
Danil54grl
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I would rather eat my own verses someone else if I can. I can spend 20 cents for a pack of seeds that gives me $40 dollars and more worth of product. I have already harvested 1 watermelon and there is another 13 growing. Around here a watermelon will cost you almost $6!
Exactly,it's great stuff to have around,but there are other ways to bulk up on long term stores as well.
Funny you said that,lol,I just pulled my first cannon ball watermelon today and got a couple striped that should be ready in about a week,haha.
Overlord
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Am considering the limitations of my current location and availability of items here in the country.
As to limitations of living in a condo (it is more a matter of convenience, I work in the next building, my teenage daughter walks to school, my other daughter is just a 15 minute ride away), dehydration and other activities are kinda hard to do here. Mostly canned and packaged stuff. Although we do grow some small items in our 2ft by 10ft plantbox.
Availability of survival items here are very low. MREs can be found but with only a shelf life of about 3 years (cost-wise versus storing canned goods with the same life, I would go for the canned goods).
Am considering the above freeze dried stuff as an alternative, that we don't need to rotate, in the event that we have to bug-in longer than we need to. (Part of this would actually be stored in my BOL for variety since in my BOL, am basically complete with what we need from 30 coconut trees, a few dozen fruit trees, sweet potatoes, etc. plus a deep well)
old_anorak
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Overlord, one of the things you need to check is that while the company says there is enough for 'x' amount of meals, you need to know how many calories that they consider a meal to be. I know that there is one company and I can't think of which one, whose daily calories for their meals came out to about 700 calories per day for a grown adult. That isn't going to cut it, especially if you are in a situation in which you have to be physically active.
Maybe use the dehydrated to add to the foods you already have stored, incorporate them into meals for the family.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy them, just to be aware of the calorie counts for each person and plan accordingly.
Maybe use the dehydrated to add to the foods you already have stored, incorporate them into meals for the family.
I'm not saying that you shouldn't buy them, just to be aware of the calorie counts for each person and plan accordingly.
Overlord
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Thanks anorak for the advise on that. Hmmmmm.... Forgot to check that out. Am familiar with MRE and MCW/LRP packs but not those dehydrated foods. Will do my research 
Even dehydrators are not common here. If there are, they are quite expensive. Wish I had a terrace to be able to use the sun (unfortunately, rainy season is here again....)
Even dehydrators are not common here. If there are, they are quite expensive. Wish I had a terrace to be able to use the sun (unfortunately, rainy season is here again....)
Overlord
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Last weekend, I brought back from my BOL a Jackfruit weighing about 10Kg, a lot of bananas, and about 20 pieces of Santol (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santol_(fruit))
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Gazrok
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If canned properly, would be fine. If I recall correctly 5 years is the recommendation, though I've read accounts of much older being consumed with no adverse affects or even taste.
Basically, if you hear the "whoosh" sound when you open it, should be ok.
However, if bugging out, different DD food than if bugging in. If on the move, I'd concentrate on freeze-dried meals over MREs. They will taste better and last the same (and often lighter).
Also, concentrate more on bringing spices and oils to help you prepare things you catch and kill, vs. actual food stuffs. Jerked meat and dehydrated foods are other good ideas for preserved, on the go food.
Ration bars are almost a given....though not very satisfying. Bring along a bottle of multivitamins too, to fill in the gaps.
Bugging in is different. You can stockpile buckets of rice, beans, pasta, etc., and jars upon jars of canned goods. Not so when on the move.
Overlord
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Did some checking. Since there is no local distributor of Wise Foods, it has to be shipped either from the US or Australia. The costs are extreme. Customs and Parcel would amount to almost the same amount as the product making it twice the cost.
We are very selective with the freeze dried foods we buy.I don't really believe in the meal kits,they are crazy expensive and a rip off,we prefer to get foods that can go with our staples such as soup mixes,freeze dried meats,pasta sauce mixes,powdered butter,scrambled eggs,fruits,ect.,all stuff that can be added to a bland meal or help make a meal like oatmeal-add some freeze dried blueberries or apple dices,a little cinnamon and sugar and now it's a tasty treat.Same with beans,It'll be nice to add ham and onion to a pot etc..I recommend just being selective in what you're buying,watch or sign up to get specials and coupons and skip the meal kit deals,buy individual #10 cans or cases of 6 for best pricing.We just watch for sales and keep adding a little at a time as we can afford to.
Edit-yeah,if shipping is that bad,it may very well may not be worth it.
Edit-yeah,if shipping is that bad,it may very well may not be worth it.
Overlord
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SB, we don't usually have to #10 cans or if there are dehydrated meals, these are very expensive also. I have started packing some cream soups which can be mixed with the rice when cooking. I also have some powdered meat seasonings that are very simple to prepare.
Yep, I would add a few cans to my stock every time we go to the grocery.
Yep, I would add a few cans to my stock every time we go to the grocery.
Gazrok
A True Doomsday Prepper
Did some checking. Since there is no local distributor of Wise Foods, it has to be shipped either from the US or Australia. The costs are extreme. Customs and Parcel would amount to almost the same amount as the product making it twice the cost.
Amazon. Often, can get free shipping deals. Check it out.
Gazrok
A True Doomsday Prepper
All this said, I'm sure my doomsday diet would consist of veggies grown in the garden, stored rice, beans, and mashed potatoes, fruit from trees, while meat would mostly be rabbit, chicken, fish, frogs, birds, squirrels, snakes, armadillos, possum, etc. Maybe supplement with some insects if we had to, but likely not having to. Sure, it wouldn't be what we are used to today, but we'd get through it.
Kenprep1979
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Rice is ok it is complex carbs which break dwn over time for sustained energy and has alot of protein , beans are high in protein, pasta'a are good for energy because they are also a complex carb . trail mix is great if you get the mix with peanuts and fruit alot of protein and natural sugars. And anything high in fat content cus if u dont have fat intake it doesnt matter how much you eat you will not survive .
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Kenprep1979
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Just ate dentymoor beef stew out of the can at work the other day myself.
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