So I bought some land in Osceola county Michigan. My plan is to live off the grid as an ongoing prep. Presently I'm going to move a camper there and eventually build a small cabin. Does anyone know the laws or able to point me in the right direction of whether this is legal or not? I'm talk straight off grid. I'll dig a well. Have a septic. Power from solar. This land is basically all wooded. Understandably I should've figure this out before I bought the 5.5 acres but here we are. Any replies, thoughts and comments help. Thanks. Also anyone with foundation experience drop me a line. It's the only part of construction that makes me nervous.
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Here in Tn each level of government has a say . But you should be able to find all these at the county level . How your area is zoned could make a difference. I have my modern everyday home and also practice frontier homesteading as part of my prepps .
Go online or visit the county permit office.
You also may way to see if a windmill is good at that location. Works really well when there's no sunlight, there is usually wind.
You also may way to see if a windmill is good at that location. Works really well when there's no sunlight, there is usually wind.
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More power to you for jumping in. Some will say it's not the wisest, but some will also plan forever and as they say if we wait until the time is right we'll be waiting for the rest of our lives. Really interested how this turns out. Wish you all the best!
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I know the septic is federally required for a permit. Wells usually have restrictions too, so that individuals don't pollute the groundwater of others. The rest is up to each local govt. most places in the country will let the landowner pull permits to build a house for himself to live in, but not for an investment to resale. One thing I've learned with the permit offices over the years is do your best to get along with them. You will get a lot less stress and headaches if you are friendly and interactive with them.
Quick update so far. A guy bought the 12 acres behind me. And I happened to see him on my two track...obviously wasn't thrilled. Went over to talk with him about it and he's going to do the same thing I am. Our thoughts after a couple beers and discussion is to keep addresses somewhere else so if push came to shove we can claim our places as hunting/vacation cabins. He had a hard time finding specific information for the location as well. I've gotten a camper up there. Should be able to start laying cabin foundation in a week or two. Going to punch a shallow well. Michigan allows homeowners to do this as long as you register the location with the county. My cousin is going to do the septic in exchange for some 45 reloads when I get that up and going and some venison. I just gotta get the material. As he's got the state certs to install them it seemed the safest route to go. Neighbor is decent. I've given him permission to use my track for the time being and in exchange I get to use his tractor to pull stumps. Win for me. Lol. He also made me aware of a black bear roaming my woods which is nice. Overall lots of work to get a cabin before freezing my ### this winter. But so far it's all looking up.
wow. Dropped a lot of money before checking this stuff? EPA might have a say about what you do, too, wetlands, etc. You dont need to own land to have buried caches there, guys. Nor to have a concealed (very small) dugout shelter, either, which you can enlarge after shtf, if need be. So you dont need to try to go far, if shtf. Traveling on the roads is likely to get your vehicle shot up. There will probably be desperate, well armed people setting up roadblocks every where. Best not be above ground during daylight hours, for at least 6 months post shtf. To be seen will probably mean you'll be shot-at. After that much time, most people will be dead, making it a lot safer to have some small, concealed plots of sprouts. After a year post shtf, small root veggie plots, in the center of thickets, will probably be ok, since so few people recognize the tops of such plants for what they are.
I had a house built her in TN. Good grief. Each County has different regs. Etc. If I was ruler of the world, things would run a lot simpler
Brent S
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I've built several homes over the years. Fla. was the worst for the permitting process. They fined me for cutting a couple scrub pines down on a wooded lot so I could get on it. Said I should have pulled a permit first..... Georgia was really good and easy compared to them though. Nice, and no unreasonable demands. I guess if your not familiar with the process then it would seem like a lot to go thru though. I've read that NY and most of Cali are the worst to build in. I think Fla is third.
