MahoganyEclipse
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That will be one of the major problems in my area, for sure!
Urban Bugging in
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jimLE
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we live in the country,so no problem there..we're on a septic tank and field line..but it'll help us to keep lots of rid-x on hand thoe
Silent Earth
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If it settles in pipes and sewers you can tap it for methane gas.
Averagedude
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You might consider burying some supplies in the forest Incase you have to leave your home in a hurry you could come back in a few days and dig up a few supplies to get you back on your feet.
Warriorhealer22
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If there's a nearby forest in your urban sprawl! If you decide to do this, keep an eye on it on a regular basis. It won't be as easy as you think and be prepared for someone to find it first! Also, remembering where it is and bring a digging implement if you need it! Another version could be renting a storage shed somewhere and keep the good supplies buried under a bunch of junk! Sure, someone at some point may decide to start looting these places, but it may keep for awhile.
Brandon Craig
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This is a topic I'm CONSTANTLY thinking about. We have a small 2 bedroom apartment and my biggest worry is having to bug out especially with our 3 small children. We are on track to purchase a house by the middle of 2019 which will mean go time for sticking up on prepped essentials but tomorrow could be the day when it all goes to hell....
tmttactical
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Congratulations on the future home buy. With small children, It is going to be very difficult to bug out, unless you get a very early start, ahead of the crisis. Obviously of it is a fire heading your way, there is no option and you will have to leave. If this is an economic situation, then the Grey Man approach, I think will be your best option. You are going to need to outlast your neighbors, while not painting a target on your backs. Urban survival is possible, at least in my mind. I currently live in an urban surroundings and I do plan to survive. If the situation is a major grid down, long term power outage, then water is going to be the first priority. Second is of course food but rations are going to need to be cut. You don't wan't to look like you are gaining weight, while everybody else is losing weight. If your apartment is ground floor, then sewage back up could also be a major problem. That old saying sh1t rolls down hill will not be a joking matter when all the pumping stations go off line. You can prep for urban survival but you do have to look at things a bit differently . JM2C
Congratulations on the future home buy. With small children, It is going to be very difficult to bug out, unless you get a very early start, ahead of the crisis. Obviously of it is a fire heading your way, there is no option and you will have to leave. If this is an economic situation, then the Grey Man approach, I think will be your best option. You are going to need to outlast your neighbors, while not painting a target on your backs. Urban survival is possible, at least in my mind. I currently live in an urban surroundings and I do plan to survive. If the situation is a major grid down, long term power outage, then water is going to be the first priority. Second is of course food but rations are going to need to be cut. You don't wan't to look like you are gaining weight, while everybody else is losing weight. If your apartment is ground floor, then sewage back up could also be a major problem. That old saying sh1t rolls down hill will not be a joking matter when all the pumping stations go off line. You can prep for urban survival but you do have to look at things a bit differently . JM2C
Brandon Craig
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I agree, its very possible just depends on the situation. As far as greyman/outlasting everyone else, we keep a pretty low profile we don't have fancy things in our apartment and we don't have a newer car nor do we invite people into our home. Things don't get to crazy around here the most exciting thing on the weekends are cars getting towed for being double parked and the occasional baby momma drama happening across the parking lot. My main thing is security. Not just OPSEC but boarding up windows and front/back doors. TBH I'm really just praying nothing happens until I get this house because my mind is filled with plans and I'm going to be busy.
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urban bugging in is certainly doable, but you need to hunker down and not get noticed. food and water supplies are the main thing you will need, but if the power goes off and it probably will you need to think about alternative cooking and heating and lighting without setting the place on fire and giving away your location, windows need to be boarded or black out blinds fitted.
Brandon Craig
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Yes cooking is something I need to be more focused on. I'm btrueoy stumped on that category...
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well if your cooking on anything but a conventional stove or cooker you've got to be careful, as well as the chance of fire there is the carbon monoxide to be aware of, you need to have either a window cracked open or some form of ventilation.
we had an apartment before we moved into the house here, there was a gas fire and the vent was a big hole in the wall on the opposite wall, it let in a huge draught so we covered it over, we soon started getting headaches and feeling sleepy, so we had to uncover the vent again, its something to be aware of.
we had an apartment before we moved into the house here, there was a gas fire and the vent was a big hole in the wall on the opposite wall, it let in a huge draught so we covered it over, we soon started getting headaches and feeling sleepy, so we had to uncover the vent again, its something to be aware of.
tmttactical
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I got a small cast iron grill. I store a few bags of charcoal. Now before folks get up in arms about fumes and smothering to death, It will be used in the bathroom and a battery operated exhaust fan will remove fumes to the rooftop. Since we will only be heating up soup type meals, no people gathering smells will be exiting. Yes, the bathroom is not the most deletable location but if you have kept is clean, it not going to be a health hazard.
Water is the next issue, Bathtub Bob (100 gallons or the 65 gallon version). Hot water heater (30 to 50 gallons) Bottled water another 30 to 40 gallons (remember folks - apartment). Water is going to be a real problem for your family -- 5 people = minimum of 5 gallons per day. More likely 7.5 gallons per day. With the absolute best scenario, you are looking at about a month worth of water. So you are going to have a dire problem very quickly. You are going to need a water purification system in place before the SHTF. You will have to scrounge water from unbelievable sources. Golf course water hazards, full of germs and duck crap, will look like a desert oasis.
Now to defense. Black plastic garbage bags taped to all windows -- prevent light from showing or movement from within. Pre-cut plywood inside window covers (not installed -- apt.manage gets real upset if installed) that can be nailed or screwed if you have a battery powered drill, slow down intruders. keep hammer and nails handy, for remounting window covers that have been knocked in. You and wife will have to be armed and prepared to repel all boarder, at different windows. It will most likely be more than just one invader if they are trying to kick in your window or doors.
Now this is going to sound real harsh, but you cannot take any prisoners and if possible, you should hunt down any that have attacked your apartment. Now my reasoning is that if you have done a good job of repelling these folks and they figure they are not going to get your supplies, then they may decide to just burn you out. You cannot defend against a fire attack. Jm2C
jontte
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but as mentioned earlier in this thread,do scout ahead what is available around you,stores,depots,gun stores,camping stores etc,put them on a paper map and if possible do pay those places a visit just when it heats up and "borrow" what you can..
scout ahead bug out routes if you have to abandon your place.
scout ahead bug out routes if you have to abandon your place.
Brandon Craig
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With less than 6 months until we move to our house honestly bugging in for long term just isn't practical given my situation not because it's impossible but with my number of people I have to protect and provide for resources would run scarce pretty quickly.
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Propane stove, also totally safe indoors (with a slightly open window)
tmttactical
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I chose the coal fired cast iron grill because I can always find twigs and small wood objects to burn. Other fuels might require me to go into area's frequented by other folks. Part of my Grey Man plan, out of sight out of mind. Round up twigs at night and stay indoors during daylight, as much as possible. All the items I mentioned in a previous post can be transported to another location. the garbage bags are not used until needed for safety or garbage. The plywood is cut but not installed and can be re-purposed at another location. Water jugs, bottles will travel too. Planning to bug-in, will work at the apartment of can be moved to the new home. N o waste and no extra cost. At some point you new home will lose power, so the grill will come in handy. You are sill going to have garbage, so the bags won't be wasted, water, same thing, the only potential wasted item is the Bathtub Bob and they are cheap insurance. JM2C
