Survivalist Prepping vs Supply Prepping

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Do you prefer Supply Prepping or Survivalist Prepping?

  • Survivalist Prepping... I can live with nature indefinitely!

    Votes: 5 6.0%
  • Supply Prepping... I'm staying and holding down the fort!

    Votes: 9 10.8%
  • Both, actually... I see merits in both and work on them regularly

    Votes: 69 83.1%

  • Total voters
    83
Buying them off with trade goods could be a good way to turn a potential threat into a reluctant alie as they would protect their sorce of trade from other gangs . If they would not go for a pay off then look at what works in a real worl situation like in the 80's Palistinian terroist would walk buy the U.S embassy and fire their little AK's at the building 2 Delta force snipers set up and when the tango's showed up to play the Delat troopers turned their heads into pink mist and the bad guys got the message .
 
nice!
Buying them off with trade goods could be a good way to turn a potential threat into a reluctant alie as they would protect their sorce of trade from other gangs . If they would not go for a pay off then look at what works in a real worl situation like in the 80's Palistinian terroist would walk buy the U.S embassy and fire their little AK's at the building 2 Delta force snipers set up and when the tango's showed up to play the Delat troopers turned their heads into pink mist and the bad guys got the message .
not quite what I was getting at. I was pretty much stating that if a small gang comes around that wants in, but instead you give them some supplys to make them go away, that didn't just turn them into good guys now. knowing that if they came and bugged you again, youd likely give them more supplys, do you think theyd just simply not come back? again, much as feeding a wild bear, you feed it n it comes back thinking youll feed it, but if you don't feed it, it still realizes you have food TO feed it. tbh, it might just be easier to take them out from the get go.
 
Or just poison the hell out of them the 3rd time, then shoot whoever is left....
3RD time??? 3RD time? roflmmfao! idk bout 3rd time but thatd be a great idea really, just make sure the gang isn't big enough where only a few guys pass from it n the rest come back looken for you. the most optimal defense is not for someone to have an offence looking for you lol. ill have to remember that when im out re-supplying my food.....let people I don't care about eat it first haha
 
The problem with giving to gangs is that they will not accept a small pack from you, they will want the whole lot so they don't have to come back to keep on collecting. It won't be worth the effort. They wouldn't care about you having some left. Unlike with the taxes with the government, you only give the gov't a portion of what you have.
 
My opinion is very simple, if you go where most people are unwilling to go.
If you live where most people are unwilling to live, you will live.
If you do what you need to do to take care of yourself and you are mobile, able to move camp if need it be - you will live.
If you sit in your house with your rose colored glasses on and think that the people that works at the electric company, water company, gas company, sewage company - is still going to supply these resources if there is no money and or if another entity is invading your country, you are sadly mistaken.


When you have neighbors that has to go to town on a daily basis - else they don't eat, because they don't have any food stored in their house and they live hand to mouth, how do you think these people are going to live when there is no food in the grocery stores?

I live in a duplex and my best friend lives on the other side of the house.
He is a alcoholic and has begged money from all of his friends, which has alienated his friends from him - because he owes everyone money.
His children are more sophisticated, if they want something they just wait until you leave and they steal it. If you don't give it to them, they will come and damage your equipment - just to make you mad.
They have gone so far as to take their girlfriends door to door, make up some sob story about their hard times or how they need money for diapers or gasoline and then drive to town and buy dope with the money.


ARE THINGS GOING TO GET WORSE OR BETTER WHEN THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COLLECT AND THE BEER DISTRIBUTOR RUNS OUT OF BOOZE?

You are going to have all kinds of weirdo's come out of the woodwork that is going to be banging on your door wanting to borrow something - because while you skimped and saved, they lived, drank, screwed and drugged themselves into a stupor. I had to set some cruel rules for these people and I had to lay the law down on them on more then one occasion.

You don't know how bad things can get if you never experienced hard times. I'm not talking - just not being able to pay your bills, but real hard times - like when there is no work and you don't have any money and you don't have any food and you don't have any place to live and you are desperate and you will do what ever it takes to take care of your family.

A person can stick their heads in the sand and believe that it's not going to be this way, but I can already see it coming in another generation or two anyways. There is 3 people working in my town and 7 people collecting a check! How long can this lifestyle last? This is going on everywhere.
The rich refuses to take care of the poor, and why should they.
If a person is not willing to work, then they deserve to starve!


Politically, our president is looking out for his own people.
He is giving them cell phones - so he can track where they been and who they been talking to and what they are doing. It makes it much easier to catch dope dealers and terrorists when they are text messaging each other on a daily basis. You don't have to have so many poleice...


The drugs are injected into society to get the masses to conform.
It is easier to keep people in one place if they have a steady stream of drugs to keep them high and drunk.
Even in Vietnam - the sergeants sold the grunts drugs so they wouldn't go AWOL and so they would fight. The officers made large sums of money!


The hippies of the 60's turned into the entrepreneurs of the 70's and 80's.
The profits from the sales of drugs fueled the economy, lot's of non taxable dollars being distributed.
Our countries investment in technology has only fueled this disbelieve that we don't need to work anymore and that we can invest our money wisely and live off of the profits. No one wants to work and there is no reason for them to work as long as people are going to give them handouts.


When the gravy train ends, we are going to have all kinds of desperate people looking for what they can get.
Your house is going to be a easy target.
If an invading country drops a bomb, the effects of the bomb is going to be more severe in a populated area then in a sparsely populated area.
You need to have the option of leaving - bugging out, getting out of Dodge!


As others has said, unless you live in a concrete bunker, you might as well forget it being a defense-able position. And that is just my two cents!
 
My opinion is very simple, if you go where most people are unwilling to go.
If you live where most people are unwilling to live, you will live.
If you do what you need to do to take care of yourself and you are mobile, able to move camp if need it be - you will live.
If you sit in your house with your rose colored glasses on and think that the people that works at the electric company, water company, gas company, sewage company - is still going to supply these resources if there is no money and or if another entity is invading your country, you are sadly mistaken.


When you have neighbors that has to go to town on a daily basis - else they don't eat, because they don't have any food stored in their house and they live hand to mouth, how do you think these people are going to live when there is no food in the grocery stores?

I live in a duplex and my best friend lives on the other side of the house.
He is a alcoholic and has begged money from all of his friends, which has alienated his friends from him - because he owes everyone money.
His children are more sophisticated, if they want something they just wait until you leave and they steal it. If you don't give it to them, they will come and damage your equipment - just to make you mad.
They have gone so far as to take their girlfriends door to door, make up some sob story about their hard times or how they need money for diapers or gasoline and then drive to town and buy dope with the money.


ARE THINGS GOING TO GET WORSE OR BETTER WHEN THERE IS NO GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE FOR THESE PEOPLE TO COLLECT AND THE BEER DISTRIBUTOR RUNS OUT OF BOOZE?

You are going to have all kinds of weirdo's come out of the woodwork that is going to be banging on your door wanting to borrow something - because while you skimped and saved, they lived, drank, screwed and drugged themselves into a stupor. I had to set some cruel rules for these people and I had to lay the law down on them on more then one occasion.

You don't know how bad things can get if you never experienced hard times. I'm not talking - just not being able to pay your bills, but real hard times - like when there is no work and you don't have any money and you don't have any food and you don't have any place to live and you are desperate and you will do what ever it takes to take care of your family.

A person can stick their heads in the sand and believe that it's not going to be this way, but I can already see it coming in another generation or two anyways. There is 3 people working in my town and 7 people collecting a check! How long can this lifestyle last? This is going on everywhere.
The rich refuses to take care of the poor, and why should they.
If a person is not willing to work, then they deserve to starve!


Politically, our president is looking out for his own people.
He is giving them cell phones - so he can track where they been and who they been talking to and what they are doing. It makes it much easier to catch dope dealers and terrorists when they are text messaging each other on a daily basis. You don't have to have so many poleice...


The drugs are injected into society to get the masses to conform.
It is easier to keep people in one place if they have a steady stream of drugs to keep them high and drunk.
Even in Vietnam - the sergeants sold the grunts drugs so they wouldn't go AWOL and so they would fight. The officers made large sums of money!


The hippies of the 60's turned into the entrepreneurs of the 70's and 80's.
The profits from the sales of drugs fueled the economy, lot's of non taxable dollars being distributed.
Our countries investment in technology has only fueled this disbelieve that we don't need to work anymore and that we can invest our money wisely and live off of the profits. No one wants to work and there is no reason for them to work as long as people are going to give them handouts.


When the gravy train ends, we are going to have all kinds of desperate people looking for what they can get.
Your house is going to be a easy target.
If an invading country drops a bomb, the effects of the bomb is going to be more severe in a populated area then in a sparsely populated area.
You need to have the option of leaving - bugging out, getting out of Dodge!


As others has said, unless you live in a concrete bunker, you might as well forget it being a defense-able position. And that is just my two cents!
You've got some good points, it really does paint a gloomy picture about the shape our country is in.
 
hmmm.....as much as I fully agree with very much a lot of your post, I must disagree with a small bit. not everyone living off the government (peoples taxes etc) really want to be there, or are too lazy to look for work. some simply can not find work. I live in an area where a job opens up and 200+ applications get filled out. I will admit, and have admitted on other threads, I have lived off of the government. me, my ol'lady and 3 kids, now tell me please just how easy it is to live off of $650 in cash and $700 in foodstamps? tell me even one place 2 adults and 3 kids can find a place and pay bills with that amount of money? some people need it. that's why im going to college, to hopefully end that bit of my life. although, with the people you suggest n their lifestyle, really makes the whole "drug test for government assistance" more viable. but then again, look at the bright side, if SHTF mofos cant ever say theres no work haha there would be plenty of stuff to do at that time. if they don't, they'll fall out.
 
I'm a newbie!! LOL! Enjoyed the conversation!!
I've watched different prep shows and Alaska: The Last Frontier. These have lead me to believe both talents will be necessary.
I'm learning and have some ideas of my own. Have any of ya'll heard of aquaponics? Its a way to grow veggies year round on very little water and provides meat..fish. And it can be hidden. You have to plan ahead.
I've just barely started. I'm not sure which is the most immanent danger, financial disaster seems to be the closest.
I look forward to reading your posts, picking your brains, and sharing my knowledge with you!!
 
I like the concept of both but it is survivalist that I use right now. I am on very small income and renting an efficiency apartment with my best friend and I have very limited supplies, I have a basic pack and I'm getting a pack rifle and takedown bow ASAP but other supplies will be what I gather through the process of gathering and bugging out to my location
 
3RD time??? 3RD time? roflmmfao! idk bout 3rd time but thatd be a great idea really, just make sure the gang isn't big enough where only a few guys pass from it n the rest come back looken for you. the most optimal defense is not for someone to have an offence looking for you lol. ill have to remember that when im out re-supplying my food.....let people I don't care about eat it first haha

That's why you use slow-acting stuff, that may mask as other symptoms, etc. By the time they make the connection (if they do at all), their numbers are at least lower when they come back, if they do.

The problem with giving to gangs is that they will not accept a small pack from you, they will want the whole lot so they don't have to come back to keep on collecting. It won't be worth the effort. They wouldn't care about you having some left. Unlike with the taxes with the government, you only give the gov't a portion of what you have.

Still can only carry so much, and the wise leader will like the idea of a possible resupply. If not, then the run and poison idea (if too large to fight and win decisively). No doubt it would suck to have to run, and have the place ransacked, but better than death (and some small satisfaction knowing what awaits the looters a few days from now...like stomach cramps, eventual death, etc.).

I can be a ruthless bastard when my family's safety is at stake. I'm sure I'm not the only one, so something these looters will have to consider and assess.
 
Ruthless yea . I'm live and let live when I can be but I've studied unconventional warfare for decades and have develpoed a defence stratagy that would make any threating parties wish they had stayed out of my sector .
 
I like the concept of both but it is survivalist that I use right now. I am on very small income and renting an efficiency apartment with my best friend and I have very limited supplies, I have a basic pack and I'm getting a pack rifle and takedown bow ASAP but other supplies will be what I gather through the process of gathering and bugging out to my location
there are so many cheap ways to get what you need, from Wal-mart to the dollar store, and if all else fails, ask people for stuff. like when you go to the doctor/hospital, ask for that half bottle of iodine or gauze etc. imho, if you're bugging out, the last thing you're gonna want to do is stop to get something (depending on the town/location). me, I live in somewhat of a city, I know that everyone and their grandfather are gonna be hitten up the stores etc, so I like to have what I need beforehand. if I can get out of this place while everyone is still frantically chasing down supplys, ill have a head start and be less likely to be wounded in the process.
 
When I've gone to the hospital, I've filled up one of those little bins. You get charged for it anyhow, might as well have it. Of course, if they happen to have some open drawers with supplies in them.... :D
 
you must understand, I used to be that basturd that broke into everything, cars, houses you name it. I was a theiven F'er I was. I left that life behind though so no matter how small, I don't steal anything anymore, try n do my best in life to be very honest. though the day may come again where my skills are needed.
 
I have read all of these replies and I see all the points made...for me and my family we do both kinds of prepping...natural medicinal plants are out there but if you don't know how to use and prepare them you will do more damage than good...seek the advice of a herbalist and learn the old ways....it could mean the difference of life and death for you and your family...mother nature has provided for us for centuries we have just forgotten how to use what she has givin us
 
After our exercise at home, we realized that mainly supply prepping (based on supermarket items) is not the only way to go. We are now going to start beginning the plots and increase the number of plants we have growing in the condo (subject to building restrictions).

Will also increase the number of vegetables at the farm (we mostly have fruit trees like bananas, jackfruit, etc.) and put up a fishpond.
 

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