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I absolutely love where I live. I hope all here feel the same about their home. Some people have a lot of free time to think and analyze the potential for "very unlikely scenarios".

I believe in the importance of preparedness as much as anyone here. However quality of life comes first in my opinion. Not everyone's idea of a quality life is the same. Figure out what's yours is first...nevermind what everyone else's is.

If you already live in an ideal SHTF location...great. If you can afford to own a 2nd property that is even more ideal...excellent.

Nothing wrong with that. However people should have their priorities in order first.

There are many lessor scenarios that are far more likely to occur than any kind of shtf situation...including natural disasters. Many people here are long retired and don't have to worry about maintaining/earning a good living or starting a family.

Some of the most desirable locations to live for some are also NOT the most ideal locations for the end of the world apocalypse.

Some people here choose to live in seclusion far from human contact. That is their choice and I see nothing wrong with this as long as they enjoy this way of life.

Unfortunately that is not an ideal way of life for everyone...even if it's the most ideal for a SHTF scenario.
 
Had to stop for gas in Birmingham Alabama coming back from Biloxi Louisiana. Thought I was going to have trouble with a bunch of gang banger thugs . Filled up swiped My card they were waiting near the entrance of the store looking tuff . I told My Wife who wanted to go in and get a snack and drink to wait till We get back on the interstate and We will find a Cracker barrel.
 
But But But its so enriched with diversity and democratic culture it must be heaven on earth in Illinois :) the locals will help you to redistribute your wealth ( at gun point) you can enjoy the fruit of all the local culture ( Cannabis, Crack, LSD, etc ) :)
 
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But But But its so enriched with diversity and democratic culture it must be heaven on earth in Illinois :) the locals will help you to redistribute your wealth ( at gun point) you can enjoy the fruit of all the local culture ( Cannabis, Crack, LSD, etc ) :)

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You mean like you have in the UK? I don't know which great UK town of the year you live in but I'm willing to bet I wouldn't trade places with you for all the pounds in the world.
 
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London murders 2017 so far 29
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/08/roll-...espread-knife-crime-is-across-london-6623074/
Chicago murders 2017 so far 437 25 just this month
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/2017-chicago-murders

London population 10.5 million
http://worldpopulationreview.com/world-cities/london-population/

Chicago population only 2.7 million
https://suburbanstats.org/population/illinois/how-many-people-live-in-chicago

So Chicago has only a quarter of the population of London but FIFTEEN times the murder rate.
 
London murders 2017 so far 29
http://metro.co.uk/2017/05/08/roll-...espread-knife-crime-is-across-london-6623074/
Chicago murders 2017 so

That's funny because I highly doubt that. Every day at 3am some gang banger on some block drives to another bad pocket and shoots another gang banger.

Yet aside from reading about it on the news...99% never of us nevet even know its going on. And no I don't live in a gated community either...but I am less than 10 minutes from the lake. So keep trolling Silent...im still more than happy were I am.

That's funny because I highly doubt that. Every day at 3am some gang banger on some block drives to another bad pocket and shoots another gang banger.

Yet aside from reading about it on the news...99% never of us nevet even know its going on. And no I don't live in a gated community either...but I am less than 10 minutes from the lake. So keep trolling Silent...im still more than happy were I am.
 
I doubt that Silent as I don't like


That's funny because I highly doubt that. Every day at 3am some gang banger on some block drives to another bad pocket and shoots another gang banger.

Yet aside from reading about it on the news...99% never of us nevet even know its going on. And no I don't live in a gated community either...but I am less than 10 minutes from the lake. So keep trolling Silent...im still more than happy were I am.


Not trolling you dork, just having a light hearted banter, or is it OK for you to have a go at everything and everyone else but not liking it reciprocated?/ Lighten up Mon Ami last time I was in Chicago I didnt get shot either but my car got burglarised in London !!!
 
Not trolling you dork, just having a light hearted banter, or is it OK for you to have a go at everything and everyone else but not liking it reciprocated?/ Lighten up Mon Ami last time I was in Chicago I didnt get shot either but my car got burglarised in London !!!

Yea well there is a serious media bias over here. They love to focus on the gang on gang violence that 99% of the people aren't effected in an attempt to slowly take our gun rights.

Look up property in downtown Chicago or in one of the many Northern suburbs near the lake...you almost have to be rich to buy real estate here now. The poor are slowly being pushed further and further into the outskirts of the city. The crime still goes on but as long as most aren't effected by it no one cares.
 
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Yea well there is a serious media bias over here. They love to focus on the gang on gang violence that 99% of the people aren't effected in an attempt to slowly take our gun rights.

Look up property in downtown Chicago or in one of the many Northern suburbs near the lake...you almost have to be rich to buy real estate here now. The poor are slowly being pushed further and further into the outskirts of the city. The crime still goes on but as long as most aren't effected by it no one cares.


Almost the same thing here the poor or ordinary folks simply cannot afford to live in places like London now, a detached house across the greater London area is now over £800,000 ( A million USD) a semi detached is over £650,000 House prices are changing London as much as immigration and white flight is, and Crime is rising year on year. Yet even with all that there are parts of London that are quiet peaceful pleasant disctricts.
 
Yea well there is a serious media bias over here. They love to focus on the gang on gang violence that 99% of the people aren't effected in an attempt to slowly take our gun rights.

Look up property in downtown Chicago or in one of the many Northern suburbs near the lake...you almost have to be rich to buy real estate here now. The poor are slowly being pushed further and further into the outskirts of the city. The crime still goes on but as long as most aren't effected by it no one cares.


Almost the same thing here the poor or ordinary folks simply cannot afford to live in places like London now, a detached house across the greater London area is now over £800,000 ( A million USD) a semi detached is over £650,000 House prices are changing London as much as immigration and white flight is, and Crime is rising year on year. Yet even with all that there are parts of London that are quiet peaceful pleasant districts.
 
The contrasts in house prices over here is insane, here in this village you can buy a three bedroom semi detached family home with front and rear gardens plus garage for £85,000 ( Under$100K) go to many cities and you need over half to three quarters of a million for the same property, YET the better schools, nicer environment and lower crime are HERE not in the expensive areas !!!
 
Almost the same thing here the poor or ordinary folks simply cannot afford to live in places like London now, a detached house across the greater London area is now over £800,000 ( A million USD) a semi detached is over £650,000 House prices are changing London as much as immigration and white flight is, and Crime is rising year on year. Yet even with all that there are parts of London that are quiet peaceful pleasant districts.

London real estate has gotten so ridiculously expensive. The bang for the buck in Europe seems to be in Germany now cause everyone rents instead of owns.
 

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