Helpful Info. Property

[Karl Mangini]

I just bought a perfect property in Michigan in preparation for Doomsday. It has a house, 4 outbuildings, 6 ponds loaded with fish, a trout stream, and 30 acres of blueberries. This property will be able to sustain life very easily in my opinion. The real estate agent I worked with only deals with farm properties and he told me that he's been contacted by a lot of people that are looking for property to prepare for doomsday. The next thing I need to do is set up some solar panels. Also, as fate would have it, he told me farm property is going really cheap right now. Just so you all know!

 

[OldCoot]

Sounds nice. Wild blueberries or rows of commercial varieties?

As nice as this sounds, I would not expect self reliance to be easy, unless you have practiced it and have all the tools, supplies & knowledge to grow all your own food. Even then, that is not an easy life. Yes, rewarding... but not easy. Then of course security... keeping others away is usually another issue.

 

[tmttactical]

You have certainly taken a good first step. Got the basic to start with and hopefully the time to make it better. Congrats on the purchase. Now the real hard work starts.

 

[Maverick]

I can attest, even with knowledge and the tools/equipment it's not easy, even in good times. 12~16 hour (or longer) days are quite common even when sick, it takes money a lot of it to get to the point of being truly self sufficient. Fuel (gas, diesel and propane), equipment maintenance and livestock feeds are the biggest drain on our budget here then we have the pitfalls that hit us from time to time. In the end, it's all worth it

 

[TexasFreedom]

Karl,

Congrats on the first big step.

I'm curious, how much is land that way? Down here in central Texas, it might start at $2k/acre. Closer to towns & more desirable land is $10-20k/acre. These are 100+acre tracts. But it's fairly dry here & this is unimproved land. I haven't priced improved land, 30 acres of blueberries is a very nice improvement! And that implies driving access & things like water. Very nice!

I was looking at some mountain lands in Missouri, there's it's only $1-2k/ acre for some nice tracts 100-250 acres. Unimproved, but with large ponds and workable soil. Of course you can go the other way, west Texas land is $200/acre, and that's over paying because there is not a thing you can do with it (oil drilling maybe?).

 

[Danil54grl]

I can attest, even with knowledge and the tools/equipment it's not easy, even in good times. 12~16 hour (or longer) days are quite common even when sick, it takes money a lot of it to get to the point of being truly self sufficient. Fuel (gas, diesel and propane), equipment maintenance and livestock feeds are the biggest drain on our budget here then we have the pitfalls that hit us from time to time. In the end, it's all worth it

Those are our biggest expenses too around here. Seems like there is always something that needs worked on or replaced when it comes to equipment. Right now it is big blue and it's alternator is having to get replaced.

Congratulations on your property purchase. It sounds like it is a nice one with the ponds, blueberries already there and a stream running thru it. I'm assuming there is a well in place for irrigation? If you don't already have one, they are to have.

 

[Karl Mangini]

Its on city water and the blueberries are irrigated from the ponds. The water table is really high there. But yes, lots of expenses to come yet. The rental income from the blueberry farm will help to chip away at that and maybe I'll get someone to do a hunting lease.

 

[Danil54grl]

It was a blueberry farm in its past life, like a pick your own? Only problem I can foresee with something like that is people will know about that resource on the property. You may very well have unwanted guest showing up at your doorstep.

 

[Brent S]

It was a blueberry farm in its past life, like a pick your own? Only problem I can foresee with something like that is people will know about that resource on the property. You may very well have unwanted guest showing up at your doorstep.

That’s what firearms were invented for

 

[tmttactical]

you can

That’s what firearms were invented for

You pick blue berries at night, harder to shoot at night, AND yes it is possible with the right scope, just harder. Got to see or know they have arrived.

 

[Celeree]

Congrats on the property! I'm envious of the ponds.