priorities & value in hypothetical SHTF scenario

[bigpaul]

i know nothing about Chicago and very little about other American cities, but I was given the impression that Chicago is really run down, didn't I hear that the city council had gone bankrupt or something?
cities in a minor emergency or a short term event will probably be okay, not wonderful but eventually the cities will be the first to be resupplied because that is where most of the population lives, in the UK that's about 80%, but when I talk about SHTF I really mean TEOTWAWKI and there will be NO resupply.

 

[toexist]

i know nothing about Chicago and very little about other American cities, but I was given the impression that Chicago is really run down, didn't I hear that the city council had gone bankrupt or something?
cities in a minor emergency or a short term event will probably be okay, not wonderful but eventually the cities will be the first to be resupplied because that is where most of the population lives, in the UK that's about 80%, but when I talk about SHTF I really mean TEOTWAWKI and there will be NO resupply.

And the lunatic troll strikes again. What I want to know is if the SHTF...what this mental midget is going to do when his meds run out.

 

[bigpaul]

i should say I have seen both sides, I live in a city for over 40 years both man and boy, when I got remarried we moved to a medium sized town in the next county where we lived for 10 years, we then came home to Devon and now live on the edge of a country market town with a low population. I prefer it here, I have been to big cities and people don't have time to be courteous, in fact they jump a mile if you speak to them and they hurry on their way. I know everyone here and I know where they live, a lot I know where they work and what car they drive.

 

[toexist]

 

[grayghost668]

damn ,,,,,,,,,,,someone needs to close this thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[bigpaul]

you reckon? I was just getting into my stride!

 

[toexist]

you reckon? I was just getting into my stride!

 

[SheilaT.]

damn ,,,,,,,,,,,someone needs to close this thread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Like a dog with a bone, some folk don't know when to have the good grace to quit.

 

[bigpaul]

your a fine one to talk

 

[SheilaT.]

Ya know Paul, for someone who is supposed to dislike people trolling and getting personal, you sir, are the master. Not just on this thread but for years you have been baiting and goading people into arguements for the sole reason for you to then bleat and play the injured party.
You have been seen off or banned from most UK forums for your bad behaviour, and as far as I know there are only two that put up with you, one of which is yours!

 

[toexist]

I'd close this thread myself before I let this delusional troll hijack it. Believe it or not some value has been exchanged here...at least in my eyes.

 

[bigpaul]

Ya know Paul, for someone who is supposed to dislike people trolling and getting personal, you sir, are the master. Not just on this thread but for years you have been baiting and goading people into arguements for the sole reason for you to then bleat and play the injured party.
You have been seen off or banned from most UK forums for your bad behaviour, and as far as I know there are only two that put up with you, one of which is yours!

its called having an opinion, I have a right to my own whether you agree with it or not, "bad behaviour" yes maybe in the era of the snowflake they class it as that, people are so pathetic these days, which is why I think very few will survive once the emergency arises.

 

[toexist]

its called having an opinion, I have a right to my own whether you agree with it or not, "bad behaviour" yes maybe in the era of the snowflake they class it as that, people are so pathetic these days, which is why I think very few will survive once the emergency arises.

Listen to this guy. When people hear "prepper" this is the kinda person that comes to mind. This is why I keep my interest in prepping to myself. Many people will automatically assume that you're damaged goods because of people like this.

If u back track through this thread u will see that most have been civil and genuinely attempting to exchange ideas.

Just because he is afraid of his own shadow and a miserable human being...everyone's got to pay.

 

[SheilaT.]

I'm an ubanite too Toexist and like where I live. I have weighed the pros and cons and for me at this time in my life, I'm exactly where I need to be. I would like to be a bit more self reliant but what I want to do could well be done here as anywhere,more space would be good though, maybe I'll get another allotment. Whether one is urban or rural really doesn't matter it's that you are prepping at all and have a plan that's got to be a plus.

 

[Brent S]

I will say one thing about this thread. There's been more active participation on this than most. I think there's been some personal jabs that could have been left out, but aren't we here to discuss things and learn new view points and ideas?

 

[toexist]

I'm an ubanite too Toexist and like where I live. I have weighed the pros and cons and for me at this time in my life, I'm exactly where I need to be. I would like to be a bit more self reliant but what I want to do could well be done here as anywhere,more space would be good though, maybe I'll get another allotment. Whether one is urban or rural really doesn't matter it's that you are prepping at all and have a plan that's got to be a plus.

Thanks Sally, appreciate it. Yea Ive been into firearms for some time. After getting into various YouTube gun bloggers I stumbled upon some prepper related channels. This got me thinking prep.

I think I'm someone whom naturally is curious and often find myself over analyzing all kinds of things... sometimes to a fault.

 

[toexist]

I will say one thing about this thread. There's been more active participation on this than most. I think there's been some personal jabs that could have been left out, but aren't we here to discuss things and learn new view points and ideas?

Yea I'm pretty stubborn but rest assure I have sincere intentions to learn. Through debating I have picked up quite a bit thus far.

 

[Brent S]

I have a daughter in Chicago, or a close suburb anyways, for their sake I hope your right about some cities being more stable in an emergency than others. I'd hope they could make it here in an emergency, but that's a lot of road to travel. She describes her area as safe and very family oriented.
One question I have is the gun control there. Do you have to jump thru a lot of hoops to legally own a firearm?

 

[toexist]

I have a daughter in Chicago, or a close suburb anyways, for their sake I hope your right about some cities being more stable in an emergency than others. I'd hope they could make it here in an emergency, but that's a lot of road to travel. She describes her area as safe and very family oriented.
One question I have is the gun control there. Do you have to jump thru a lot of hoops to legally own a firearm?

You just have to have a clean record. It takes a couple months to get your FOID (firearms license) after submission. To get ur concealed carry license u have to take full 2 day course, pass an easy nra based range test and it helps (optional not required) to get ur finger prints sent through state police which I did. Takes around 2 or 3 months to get ur ccw after submitting.

There is a 3 day wait for handgun and 2 day wait for rifle after purchase required for pickup. A couple elite suburbs banned ownership of certain "assault rifles" but that's about it.

Most of Chicago is extremely safe. There are bad pockets but they're easily avoided. Most of the crime takes place in areas I doubt ur daughter would go anywhere near.

Many of the suburbs of Chicago are some of the safest communities in the country.

 

[bigpaul]

whether a city is safe in an emergency depends on the event, one thing is sure once the electric and the mains go down, very few people will be able to survive, most city apartments and other housing are too close together and have nowhere to grow stuff, once the initial food supply is gone you need to be able to grow at least some of your own food, wherever you live, city, town or country. and of course the knowledge to do so, no point in starting growing SHTF+day 1 if you don't know how!