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Don't forget the one's that's depending on their tax returns to pay on.or pay off their car notes mortgages to what ever.they stand to lose more then the folks on food stamps. To me that means a increase in rioting

My way of looking at this is those hoping to use the tax return to pay off something are not going to riot. They are responsible people and will just continue making their payments. They know that sooner or later they are going to get their tax returns, so why chance a prison sentence for rioting. Jm2c
 
I agree on them being responsible. But yet not all of them are.

Yes there will be many that will be unhappy with the delay but I don't see them marching and rioting. The ones you will see in the street will be the welfare people that have not set aside anything for just such a situation. They will be primarily Democrats and no lost votes for President Trump but a real problem for N&C. I know my son's are looking forward to their returns but I don't see them marching. They will simply adapt and wait, like most people.
 
I was taught to never get money back. That just means you are giving the gov't your money all year. Change your w4 so you get it during the year
I always looked at it as a savings plan. Sure, most accountants say there’s no interest on your money, but for the average American out there if they get that extra money it is spent right away. If your disciplined enough to put it away in a savings that draws interest then that’s great, but most aren’t, so at least it’s a way to build some kind of emergency fund. I remember my son was talking with his wife’s father around tax time. He was talking about getting a big refund soon so my son said ‘that’s great, you can pay off your car’. He replied, ‘that’s not how these things work, I’ve been wanting to buy that new four wheeler for a long time now’. I guess you can’t fix stupid....
 
My first husband would always tell me how he wasn’t going to give the government interest free money for a year. He wanted all of his up front, so he could put it in a savings account and let it earn money for the year.
The problem with that was, he never got to the second part. He got his money and spent it... and then some. ☹️
 
My first husband would always tell me how he wasn’t going to give the government interest free money for a year. He wanted all of his up front, so he could put it in a savings account and let it earn money for the year.
The problem with that was, he never got to the second part. He got his money and spent it... and then some. ☹️
I am by far no financial guru, but I can do simple math. The fact is you need to set aside some of your income for emergencies and/or investing. I don’t care what the income is, large or small, something needs to be put away. I’m really suprised at how few adults in this country can manage money. Don’t they teach anything worthwhile in schools? Almost everyone I know has no savings and carries credit card debt. Both are recipes for how to stay poor for the rest of your life. Life is going to be full of emergencies from car problems to sickness and being off work. If you don’t have any savings your forced to go even deeper into debt and ensuring the cycle continues. It seems the old saying about money burning a hole in your pocket holds true for most people. They can’t resist buying that next instant gratification thing.
Luckily I have one kid out of four that is pretty good with money. He went to buy a new living room set yesterday. The store was shocked when he didn’t want to finance it. The lady said they have old people pay outright sometimes, but never anyone younger. Another thing that impressed me was a comment he just said to me. Our business has been good so we decided to upgrade our phones before the end of the year, to help with taxes. He picked out the latest ones for everybody and was so excited about it. After a week of carrying it around he realized it’s just a phone and doesn’t make much difference in the big scheme of things. He said he will remember that the next time he gets excited about any new toy. Made me proud....
 
I am by far no financial guru, but I can do simple math. The fact is you need to set aside some of your income for emergencies and/or investing. I don’t care what the income is, large or small, something needs to be put away. I’m really suprised at how few adults in this country can manage money. Don’t they teach anything worthwhile in schools? Almost everyone I know has no savings and carries credit card debt. Both are recipes for how to stay poor for the rest of your life. Life is going to be full of emergencies from car problems to sickness and being off work. If you don’t have any savings your forced to go even deeper into debt and ensuring the cycle continues. It seems the old saying about money burning a hole in your pocket holds true for most people. They can’t resist buying that next instant gratification thing.
Luckily I have one kid out of four that is pretty good with money. He went to buy a new living room set yesterday. The store was shocked when he didn’t want to finance it. The lady said they have old people pay outright sometimes, but never anyone younger. Another thing that impressed me was a comment he just said to me. Our business has been good so we decided to upgrade our phones before the end of the year, to help with taxes. He picked out the latest ones for everybody and was so excited about it. After a week of carrying it around he realized it’s just a phone and doesn’t make much difference in the big scheme of things. He said he will remember that the next time he gets excited about any new toy. Made me proud....
Sounds like your son is getting it. May I ask how old he is? My kids haven’t got it yet. I am hoping and praying they do before it’s to late.
 
I think at the moment the average personal debt in the UK EXCLUDING mortgages is about £15,000 per person , that's purely credit card debt. makes me wonder who's got mine and the wife's because we haven't got any.
Hey, I use credit cards too. I just ALWAYS pay it in full each month. I also only use cards that give you reward points back. I just got seven #10 cans of freeze dried foods using some of those points. I prefer a bank giving me something vs the other way around.
 
Sounds like your son is getting it. May I ask how old he is? My kids haven’t got it yet. I am hoping and praying they do before it’s to late.
He is thirty, and seems to understand it now. Unfortunately there are three others that probably never will. One spends it before she gets it. Another makes an amazing amount of money but manages to spend more than they bring in, and the other is so so. It’s like the saying about leading a horse to water but you can’t make them drink. The best we can do is show them reasoning and hope they pick some of it up along the way.
 
The wife and I are completely debt free except the car and it is almost paid off. We have a credit card but pay it off every month. we use it for the travel points and for building our credit rating. The credit card is there for a major emergency. We also set aside cash every month, for the petty surprises. My oldest son is real good with money and will be debt free (except for his house) this year. My youngest son is still working on his debt but does make some bad financial decisions. We are not stuff buyers but doe have our hobbies. The wife makes jewelry and I prep.
 
We have 4 more mortgage payments.

When my husband's partner ran out and left us with all the restaurant bills and taxes, it put us behind. I would love to get my hands around that guys neck. We paid all the the back salaries etc. Sooo.

We are seeing the end of debt though. The house is the main one. What's sad is that our health insurance is more than our mortgage .
 
I have credit cards for emergencies, and do have a balance presently because of several emergencies that happened in the last year. I try to pay them back down as fast as possible, and should be debt free again in another month.
Life isn’t perfect and as they say ‘shit happens’. The most important thing to remember is to not use them on a normal basis. If you do get a balance work at paying them off as best you can. What is bad is when so many run a balance on them as the normal day to day. The interest rates on them are horrible.
 
I see credit card rates as high as 30%. I have to ask myself, who would agree to give me 30% of every dollar they spend, but they gladly do it every month to the credit card companies. I just shake my head in disbelief. When I was in school, they taught about simple interest and compound interest but the younger generation (remember I am old) does not appear to have clue.
 
I see credit card rates as high as 30%. I have to ask myself, who would agree to give me 30% of every dollar they spend, but they gladly do it every month to the credit card companies. I just shake my head in disbelief. When I was in school, they taught about simple interest and compound interest but the younger generation (remember I am old) does not appear to have clue.
Loan sharks aren’t even that greedy!
 

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