Terrorist Attack PARIS France 13/11/2015

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Silent Earth

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What do we KNOW

120 dead, hundreds wounded
8 attackers all dead
7 were suicide bombers who blew themselves up
1 was shot dead by police
6 locations were attacked
football stadium
rock concert
diners and bars
Attackers were shouting about Syria
France closed its borders last night, may be reopen this morning

POINTS OF NOTE
President Hollande was at stadium and was whisked away to safety,
Even after Charley Hebdo massacre the authorities STILL cannot protect the public.
All Western leaders expressed outrage sadness and solidarity with France last night, nothing was heard from Muslim countries before I went to bed at 1AM

WHAT CAN WE DO

First and foremost stop thinking it can not and will not happen to you, it can and it may well happen. We must stop viewing these attacks with a detached viewpoint.

Look its a simple fact cities are more dangerous than other places anyway because cities attract every society's nutters and losers and parasites BUT Cities ARE getting more dangerous as huge numbers of migrants, foreign criminals, extremists, hate mongers and illegal immigrants move to cities from North Africa, Middle east and Asia minor. EG Malmo has gone from a quiet distant backwater to the rape capital of Europe in under 4 years thanks to their open border welcome to everyone. Extremists flock to cities and places like transport hubs to carry out their attacks. The Israelis, Lebanese and UN reckon a MINIMUM of 2% of the 1 million migrants pouring into Europe are Islamic terrorists.

We can respond by (A) not living in cities (B) Not visiting cities © If we live in cities stay away from large public venues, transit hubs and NEVER use public transport, A very sad fact is the MORE diverse your city is the more dangerous it is. EG the number of Jewish people leaving France has increased in the last few years because of the amount of attacks on jews has increased with the rise in the number of Muslims moving into the country. (D) Campaigning for the right (if you believe in it) for law abiding citizens to be armed legally for self defence (E) Avoid unnecessary risk such as doing as much online shopping as you can to avoid having to visit high risk malls ,don't go to 'first night events' like the launch of a new movie of computer game, go after the public clamour has passed, don't send your kids to universities in large cities but if you must train them to react if a situation develops ***

*** Turns out in Paris last night the gun men at the theatre ordered everyone to lay on the floor, they complied, then the gunmen opened fire slaying them where they lay.

WHAT CAN OUR GOVERNMENTS DO
They COULD do a lot, they WILL do very little, except to ensure the iron curtain of security and themselves is improved, they will not address the unavoidable issues involving having large Muslim communities in Europe, they are more likely to clamp down hard on the public at large if they dare respond to the muslim community with violence, than deal with the Muslim community itself, they will not let us protect ourselves whilst their own security is assured.
 
well written my friend.
had a bad feeling when I woke up this morning...and this greeted me from the news feed..what slightly surprises me is that the leader of Iran called this an atrocity aginst humankind.
 
This is what a disarmed society looks like. I think the death toll would be much less if the French were allowed to carry the tools needed for self defense. I hope now the French government and others will wake up and admit what a horrible mistake it was to allow these people in to their country. Will they begin to deport these muzlim invaders now? Will other countries start taking this threat seriously now?
 
The football stadium incident reminds me of the movie "Sum of all fears" with Ben Afflack. The exact same scenario, only in the movie it was in America with a small dirty "nuclear" bomb. As soon as I heard about this I knew it would be ISIS. Amazing how no matter the crisis, Obama is so quick to "speak" his condolences (Like he really cares). Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot would be proud of what these so call leaders are doing today. If only they had figured out instead of them ordering all the killing, hire mercenaries rather than their own military to do the job. "Order out of Chaos". Create a problem to offer a solution is what they do. My heart goes out to the lost souls.
 
No again, it does not matter one dime if everyone in the restaurant is armed for self defence, when some dude outside simply steps out of a car in the dark street outside and instantly starts emptying full auto fire through the windows into a brightly lit building then happily blowing himself up with a suicide vest. YOU inside cannot even SEE the attackers never mind respond


If every guy and gal in a crowded mall were all carrying glocks doing their Christmas shopping and a group of suicide gunmen / bombers attack chance are you will be dead or diving to the floor before you get to draw your guns, they will empty one or two full auto mags into the crowd then happily detonate themselves within a few seconds. When you gather outside of church on Sunday morning and a gunman opens fire full auto then blows himself up your PDWs wont even get drawn


Personal gun ownership will have no bearing on this issue primarily because (A) You don't have time to draw and react and (B) They don't care about dying.

You guys need to get passed this shootout at the OK oral approach and learn FAST, As the Israelis are saying if the extremist cannot make a prolonged terror inducing statement by slowly and methodically shooting people they will use other means just like the IRISH IRA have done and the PLO / HAMAS have done, get a suicide bomber to drive a car up to the diner, mall, theatre, checkpoint and detonate it, Then when everyone is stunned, deafened, blinded, confused they then send in the suicide gunmen who again in only a few seconds will empty one or two magazines in full auto mode before detonating themselves.

Just imagine on 911 if just after the towers collapsed and chaos reigned, whilst the dust still blinded everyone a bunch of Islamists started shooting at the fleeing crowd for maybe 10 seconds then detonating their suicide vests.

The IRA used to kidnap families and threaten to kill them unless dad drove a car at speed into the target location where it would blow up. Hamas used to like blowing up check points and other places in Lebanon to kill and cops and guards before sending gunmen in.

As rabidly PRO gun ownership as I am I know that when dealing with ISIS/ Al Quaeda types personal defence pistols are not going to do the job. This is a totally different ballgame my friends.
 
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No again, it does not matter one dime if everyone in the restaurant is armed for self defence, when some dude outside simply steps out of a car in the dark street outside and instantly starts emptying full auto fire through the windows into a brightly lit building then happily blowing himself up with a suicide vest.
I'd rather die trying than cowering under a table. But in a free society you would have the choice to crawl under a table if you want.
 
No again, it does not matter one dime if everyone in the restaurant is armed for self defence, when some dude outside simply steps out of a car in the dark street outside and instantly starts emptying full auto fire through the windows into a brightly lit building then happily blowing himself up with a suicide vest.

Exactly, that is why the military was called in. As I stated above, they create the problem to offer a solution, to look like the good guys when it is all said and done. It is SO obvious now. Anyone that cannot see that is truly blind.
 
I'd rather die trying than cowering under a table. But in a free society you would have the choice to crawl under a table if you want.


No, now you are being insulting and offensive, you just don't get it, chances are you wont even get chance to pull your pistol and start shooting, we are talking a few seconds of intense automatic gunfire aimed into the building followed the an explosion of a belt laden with shrapnel and explosives. Every veteran I have ever met who has been under fire ducks when automatic fire starts arriving, and the Islamist KNOW that.

You are eating, drinking chatting enjoying the evening, then the windows of the resteraunt explode around you, you don't KNOW if its a car crashing into the building, and earthquake, a gas explosion, a street fight plane crash, people are stunned screaming, falling, then a huge explosion blasts you across the room shredding the resteraunt with glass shrapnel, bits of body, five to ten seconds and its all over. Are you going to be the first to draw your weapon , stand up and peer out into the dark street outside ?? who ya gonna shoot the terrorists are spread like jam across the street.

And THAT is providing they use guns at all....................................................................................................................

You are eating, drinking, shopping, enjoying the gig, watching the movie when three or four young men walk in POSSIBILY shouting Alluah Akbar before exploding as twelve pounds of shrapnel enhanced Semtex goes off around you, which is the NORMAL method of attack by Islamists, Hows your freedom to own a gun going to prevent THAT from happening, are the dudes Muslims, Mexicans or white converts, what if they are children wearing rucksacks !!!

""But in a free society you would have the choice to crawl under a table if you want"" Yup in a free country you can still die of terminal stupid as well.
 
Exactly, that is why the military was called in. As I stated above, they create the problem to offer a solution, to look like the good guys when it is all said and done. It is SO obvious now. Anyone that cannot see that is truly blind.


Doesn't do the citizens any good when you are already full of 7.62 or shrapnel does it?, Davy you are correct BUT you arte looking at issues generally beyond our control, for now we have to focus on what steps we as preppers can take to stop us becoming just more names on a memorial stone. We have to adapt and evolve as individual and preppers to reduce the threat to us from big brother and Islamic extremism.
 
Soooooo Paris is in lockdown, they don't know how many more terrorists, bombers or gunmen are around, the cops, paramil cops, GIGN, Gendarmerie are everywhere nervous as hell, ready to shoot, people are hiding in their homes, a state of emergency is declared.

So now please consider this

If this was Paris Texas not Paris France and my fellow pro gun owning American friends came out this morning to go to work, school, church, the club, the mall etc everyone is afraid and on edge, the Shefiffs office say they don't know how many more terrs are out there. You walk towards your vehicle when suddenly three dark skinned armed young men catch your eye, you draw your gun, they draw theirs, others see what is going on and reach for their guns, fear gets the upper hand and someone fires.................... everyone fires, three young Mexican Americans guys die on their way to work........................

This is NOT a gun ownership issue.
 
re-evaluate the scenario of prepping in this type of incidents.
correct me if I'm wrong,but if you use a gun you need a target and to have a target you need to identyfy it,then take aim and shoot and to be able to do this you need to be alive,right??
so a quick duck behind a table might give you this chance to stay alive and return the favor to a terrorist,right?

a cool head,clear thinking (if possible) could make the difference,it's not wrong to be afraid,it keeps you on the edge as long as you don't let it take control.
 
re-evaluate the scenario of prepping in this type of incidents.
correct me if I'm wrong,but if you use a gun you need a target and to have a target you need to identyfy it,then take aim and shoot and to be able to do this you need to be alive,right??
so a quick duck behind a table might give you this chance to stay alive and return the favor to a terrorist,right?

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Yes correct Jonnte and add to the scene the bad guys are OUTSIDE in the dark, shooting through the windows into a brightly lit restaurant, so even if you are armed and feel brave what you gonna shoot at there is nothing to see cept perhaps muzzle flashes?

So now armed with this knowledge if such an incident occurs in Finland, UK or US those who have studied these attacks MAY just get enough instinctive warning if someone does start shooting that in a few seconds there is a bloody good chance an explosion will follow, so hitting the deck MAY save your life. But in free countries feel free to stand up and start shooting at shadows if you want, Ce la Guerre
 
re-evaluate the scenario of prepping in this type of incidents.
correct me if I'm wrong,but if you use a gun you need a target and to have a target you need to identyfy it,then take aim and shoot and to be able to do this you need to be alive,right??
so a quick duck behind a table might give you this chance to stay alive and return the favor to a terrorist,right?

.

Yes correct Jonnte and add to the scene the bad guys are OUTSIDE in the dark, shooting through the windows into a brightly lit restaurant, so even if you are armed and feel brave what you gonna shoot at there is nothing to see cept perhaps muzzle flashes?

So now armed with this knowledge if such an incident occurs in Finland, UK or US those who have studied these attacks MAY just get enough instinctive warning if someone does start shooting that in a few seconds there is a bloody good chance an explosion will follow, so hitting the deck MAY save your life. But in free countries feel free to stand up and start shooting at shadows if you want, Ce la Guerre
 
What these sub human bastards are doing in Paris France is expressing their hatred for us AND responding to the hammering they are taking in Iraq and Syria, they cannot beat our military................... THEY WILL ATTACK OUR CIVILIANS..................... any F**king way they can, and the sooner we start planning to reduce the threat the safer we will be.
 
May I point out that for a few dozen IRA terrorists to cause devastation across Europe in the 80s and 90s they had to have the full support and funding from THOUSANDS of Supporters, that was FACT produced by our govt, US govt and other agencies. so for every active terrorist lets say they need TEN supporters to fund them, feed them, transport them, shelter them etc.

OK so far? So lets say the 1% Muslim Council of GB claim only 1% are actual extremists or 2 % the UN and Lebanese report as extremists or 3 % as another EU source suggests which equates to 10,000, 20,000 or 30,000 combatant extremists perm million, and each one has 10 supporters, funders, sympathisers....................... Ah I can see the look on your faces right now as the lights come on.

And the UN / EU reckons up to 4 million more migrants are heading to Europe to join the 1 million migrants already here on top of the 25 million muslims already living in Europe. Well you go figure the rest but I'm thinking about Little Big Horn and the Alamo right now.
 
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have already started to hear here that this was only a one-off incident from our left-green idiots,well when stupidity is combined with ignorance and denial you get only a grade A shit-head.
 
have already started to hear here that this was only a one-off incident from our left-green idiots,well when stupidity is combined with ignorance and denial you get only a grade A shit-head.
How can it be a one off incident ? New York, Madrid, Moscow, Beslan, Bali, London, Sharm El Shiek, Mumbai, Paris 14, Paris 15 , Mogadishu
etc etc etc
 
We are hearing of a rape fest of Scandies in Sweden and Finland of Nordics by migrants but see little from your media
 

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