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Hospitals scrap surgeries, Venezuelans forgo showers as taps run dry
http://news.trust.org/item/20180815120014-zxwh0

"For many years this deterioration process was not noticeable. But now the water transport systems are very damaged," said Jose De Viana, former president of Hidrocapital, the state-run utility in charge of Caracas' water supply.

Venezuela's socialist government typically says water cuts are due to sabotage by right-wing "terrorists."

Malfunctions in the capital's water network due to lack of maintenance have taken a turn for the worst in recent months, depriving many in this city of 3 million people of regular running water.

Information Minister Jorge Rodriguez in July announced a "special plan" to fix the issues, but did not provide details. The Information Ministry and Hidrocapital did not respond to a request for information.

Lack of water - and taps that sometimes spurt out brown liquid - have triggered health concerns in a country lacking basic antibiotics and vaccines.

About 75 percent of Caracas residents said they do not receive water regularly, according to a survey published by two Venezuelan non-governmental organizations this month. Around 11 percent said they thought dirty water had caused skin and stomach problems. The survey does not have comparative figures.

Medical consequences are hard to gauge as the Health Ministry no longer releases once-weekly data, but doctors say scabies and diarrhea are on the rise.

Water shortages have also made some basic daily activities untenable. Poor residents say they take fewer showers.
I understand things are bad there, but when the water goes, the term the SHTF gets taken to a whole new level.
 
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AND the hits just keep on coming. Hope you all are paying attention. This is what I predict will be out grand kids future, if we do not get control and keep control of our government.
 
I hear a lot about how people say that this is all Venezuela’s fault. I would agree that they are to blame some, along with declining oil prices, but the majority of their economic issues are caused by our sanctions and the pressure we have put on other countries to not trade or be able to bank with them. All I’m sure of is their government people are still eating, it’s the average citizen that is suffering the most. I read where a days minimum rations cost 3 days of average pay now. I genuinely feel for anyone watching their children starve.
 
I hear a lot about how people say that this is all Venezuela’s fault. I would agree that they are to blame some, along with declining oil prices, but the majority of their economic issues are caused by our sanctions and the pressure we have put on other countries to not trade or be able to bank with them. All I’m sure of is their government people are still eating, it’s the average citizen that is suffering the most. I read where a days minimum rations cost 3 days of average pay now. I genuinely feel for anyone watching their children starve.
You dont understand do you? Do you know why sanctions are in place? How do you propose we deal with enemy regimes? Assasinate them? I can only imagine what you would say if we did that.
 
You dont understand do you? Do you know why sanctions are in place? How do you propose we deal with enemy regimes? Assasinate them? I can only imagine what you would say if we did that.
I personally think the general population would suffer a lot less if we did assinate an enemy regimes leaders. My biggest concern is who gets to decide who is an ‘enemy regime’ and what are the qualifications for it? I seem to remember Vietnam Nat was evil, Korea, saddam hussain, Cuba, etc. all I know for sure is a lot of patriotic young men have been killed and maimed for these enemy regimes. It seems to me that we just keep finding reasons to have these enemies. Now, don’t get me wrong, when a country invades another or starts mass murder of its own people then I think someone should step up. I just feel that we have been telling the world how to live for too long, and too many have suffered for it. Now we seem to be befriending leaders like Kim and Putin that are doing some rotten things. I guess I just don’t feel our leaders are qualified to judge who is good or bad anymore.
 
I personally think the general population would suffer a lot less if we did assinate an enemy regimes leaders. My biggest concern is who gets to decide who is an ‘enemy regime’ and what are the qualifications for it? I seem to remember Vietnam Nat was evil, Korea, saddam hussain, Cuba, etc. all I know for sure is a lot of patriotic young men have been killed and maimed for these enemy regimes. It seems to me that we just keep finding reasons to have these enemies. Now, don’t get me wrong, when a country invades another or starts mass murder of its own people then I think someone should step up. I just feel that we have been telling the world how to live for too long, and too many have suffered for it. Now we seem to be befriending leaders like Kim and Putin that are doing some rotten things. I guess I just don’t feel our leaders are qualified to judge who is good or bad anymore.

I understand how you feel Brent, but its just feelings and emotional responce for the suffering of the people there. I would suggest learning whats really happening there and why the US sanctions are in place. There in place to force the corrupt socialist regine out of power and to protect against that regime from liquidating the countries (peoples) assests.
 
The people in Venezuela are getting the socialism that they voted for. Will they, or anyone else, learn from this mess? Absolutely not. Too many people today want something for nothing. And they are dumb enough to believe any slick talking politician that promises to take from the "rich" and give it to them. I'm sure they'd vote the same way again.
I've heard some misinformed people blame "falling" oil prices for Venezuelas problems. That's just plain BS. Venezuelas problem is their own elected socialist government! Historically the price of oil is still extremely high and is very profitable when managed by private companies, not socialist governments.
If Venezuelan kids are starving it's their own parents fault; they voted for this. It's almost kind of funny too how some people try to blame the US for the problems in Venezuela. That sounds a lot like obama talking when he was taking his world apology tour.
 
Venezuela Adds to Chaos With One of Biggest Currency Devaluations Ever
https://www.bloombergquint.com/glob...adds-to-turmoil-after-drone-attack#gs.XltAJeE
Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro carried out one of the greatest currency devaluations in history over the weekend -- a 95 percent plunge that will test the capacity of an already beleaguered population to stomach even more pain.

One likely outcome is that inflation, which already was forecast to reach 1 million percent this year, will get fresh fuel from the measures. Prices are currently rising at an annualized rate of 108,000 percent, according to Bloomberg’s Café con Leche index. A massive exodus of Venezuelans fleeing the crisis to neighboring countries will likely increase and with it, tensions and restrictions like the ones seen over the past few days.
 
I would to see someone do an analysis (I'm not qualified) of what we--as preppers--can learn from Venezuela, with regard to how we should prep.

I've put aside small amounts of silver and gold, but I would like better ideas.
Good idea. I guess all we can do as far as prepping is take the well rounded approach. The saying of don’t put all your eggs in one basket is wise. If you cover as many bases as you can with prepping within your economic means then you’re doing the best you can already. I kind of feel that ones location/home is probably one of the most important prep you can do. Is it a location that can be sustainable, defendable, access to water, etc. if it’s not then begin taking steps to be somewhere where you can feel more secure.
 
I would to see someone do an analysis (I'm not qualified) of what we--as preppers--can learn from Venezuela, with regard to how we should prep.

I've put aside small amounts of silver and gold, but I would like better ideas.
I don't have much in money, but I do have more than what I need in other areas, such as food, tools,seeds. I have some jewelry I can melt down if I need to.
 
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I guess one takeaway would be that the descent into hell might be like a slow motion train wreck and take years to get from stability to total chaos.
I agree 100% you must watch for the signs of the times. It is a slow rise to the boiling point, it does not happen suddenly.
 

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