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is that a sale or is that a regular store price? cuz ill have i dont see shtf till maybe 12/21/12 thats the closest 'possable' scenario unless a freak ark storm or other natural disaster happens before i get some money goen, that my un-supporting wife wont kill me for spending lol
 
is that a sale or is that a regular store price? cuz ill have i dont see shtf till maybe 12/21/12 thats the closest 'possable' scenario unless a freak ark storm or other natural disaster happens before i get some money goen, that my un-supporting wife wont kill me for spending lol
That is a sale price. it goes until april 15. the regular price is 99.00. and they will deliver it to your door.
 
what is the best way to store seeds, paper or plastic bags? Do they need air? Any farmers out there? I need farming advice? O' I also added a rooster to my chicken house , yea! Cock-A-Doodle-Doo ! 6 am !
 
what is the best way to store seeds, paper or plastic bags? Do they need air? Any farmers out there? I need farming advice? O' I also added a rooster to my chicken house , yea! Cock-A-Doodle-Doo ! 6 am !
The best way to keep seeds, make sure that they are dry, wrap in several layers of heavy brown paper put package in a heavy pollythene bag and vac seal.
 
what is the best way to store seeds, paper or plastic bags? Do they need air? Any farmers out there? I need farming advice? O' I also added a rooster to my chicken house , yea! Cock-A-Doodle-Doo ! 6 am !
when bought online, they come in air sealed ziplocks, or air sucked out sealed baggies.

also, alot of veggie seeds need to be kept in cooler temeratures.
my advice would be to either buy them pre-packed, or buy a vaccume sealer.

i know a bit about gardening, if you need anything, feel free to ask.
 
I know rabbit isn't the best thing to eat because it's not fatty anuff but my rabbit had some little bunny babies. It's a food that reproduces it's self.
 
In my experience, there is more to it than just sealing them up.
Details, details.
One cannot put all seeds in the same group.


In my opinion its where something is stored more than how.
I save seeds every year for lots of things, from the garden, and from my small dysfunctional plant nursery as well.
All my seeds are kept in paper, some are stored in envelopes in boxes of sawdust, so they can't absorb moisture, but still breathe.
Some are stored in the house, at room temp.
Some are put under the house where it is cooler.
 
In my experience, there is more to it than just sealing them up.
Details, details.
One cannot put all seeds in the same group.


In my opinion its where something is stored more than how.
I save seeds every year for lots of things, from the garden, and from my small dysfunctional plant nursery as well.
All my seeds are kept in paper, some are stored in envelopes in boxes of sawdust, so they can't absorb moisture, but still breathe.
Some are stored in the house, at room temp.
Some are put under the house where it is cooler.
I have absolutely no land to grow anything. It would all have to be potted plants.
hazards of planed communities.
 
http://wisefoodstorage.com/

You can get a free sample. We have tried it and fed all 4 of us with 1 package, tasted good too. We are buying $500 worth every other month. 25 yr shelf life too
 
There are many fancy freeze-dried food companies offering light-weight
storable meals. These are cost effective and great for new preppers. But if you don't have $1000 laying around to buy a large supply, it may be better to pick up a few key items each week at the supermarket to build up your food bank gradually. And by buying base foods at the store, you'll ultimately save money.

It's best to keep your survival food list simple, and concentrate on storing foods with the highest amount of calories and the longest shelf life. This list is geared toward foods that will help you survive a crisis that lasts for extended periods of time.

Here are the ten best and cheapest survival rations available at any store:
Rice:
Every time you go to the store you should buy one 10-lb bag of rice. You can find them for around $5 at most supermarkets. Rice will stay in good condition for 10 years or more if stored properly. It offers high carbohydrates which is especially important if you are exerting a lot of physical energy during a crisis.

Beans: Beans are known to be one of the best all-round survival foods. They're high in protein, and if sealed in food-grade buckets with a small amount of dried ice, they'll stay for up to ten years. Make sure to store them in a cool, dry, dark location. Buy a 4-5 lb bags of dried beans every time you go to the store. All dry beans are good to store; black beans, red beans, pinto beans, lentils.

Cornmeal: All-purpose flours are good to store, but cornmeal may be the best overall. Cornmeal is packed with dense carbohydrates and contains oils that helps extend its shelf life. Additionally, if the power grid is down during a mega disaster, it is much easier to make good corn breads and tortillas with cornmeal in a simple skillet or solar oven, where refined flour will need yeast and oil to make decent bread or biscuits. Get a 5-lb bag of cornmeal ($10-$15) at each grocery visit. Seal and store the same way as beans (buckets, salt and dry ice), and it will safely keep 8 months to 2 years.

Lard: If you're a health-conscious reader, hydrogenated lard does not sound very appetizing, but in a survival situation you can't afford to be picky. Animal lard or vegetable shortening both offer much-needed calories during times of crisis, cooking oil for multiple uses, and it will keep longer than cooking oils because of the hydrogenation. Buy a 6-lb can ($12) and store in a cool, dry, and dark place and it will stay good for 2-3 years or longer. (Or you can alway render your own)

Salt: Salt is one of the most useful survival food items. It's used for storing food, curing beef, and flavoring most meals. Salt will stay forever, so always buy extra when you're shopping.

Canned Fruit & Vegetables: These are another obvious survival food, but not as practical as many would think. They're heavy and somewhat costly for the calories they deliver. Additionally, acidic fruits and any cans with tomatoes will not keep as long as most people think. But most canned food is good for 5+ years. Buy green vegetables and fruits like peaches and pears for long-term storage, but more importantly, buy what you already eat in case you need to rotate them into your diet before they go bad.

Canned Meat: Canned meats like ham, tuna, and chicken are excellent to store. They typically will keep for 6-10 years and they're an excellent source of protein. However, if the grid is down for a long time (apocalyptic), hunting and fishing will likely provide most meats. Therefore, it may be sufficient to buy extra canned meats every other time you go shopping.

Sugar: Brown and white sugar will add much-needed flavor and calories to a survival diet and they'll keep for ten years or more if stored properly. Honey is also excellent as it will store forever. Make sure to buy extra every other time you go grocery shopping. You won't need too much, but they'll be well worth having if a crisis strikes.
Pasta: Pasta is a good light-weight storable food that is also a great source of carbohydrates. Pasta will not keep as long as rice, but it can stay for around 5 years in good conditions. Pasta is also very inexpensive and extra should be bought at each trip to the store. It will take up more space in your food bank than rice, beans and cornmeal, so plan your space the best you can.

Peanut Butter: Peanut butter is a terrific source of protein, fat, and calories. Plus, it's just a great treat to have on hand. Peanut butter can last up to five years in root cellar conditions. Stock up whenever there are good deals at your grocery store. You'll be happy you did if the SHTF.

If you consistently buy these items 3-4 times per month, you'll quickly acquire a year's supply of survival rations for your whole family.

How to store it?

A really basic way to store the rice, beans, cornmeal, sugar and pastas is to buy several 5-gallon seal-able paint buckets or food-grade buckets from your local hardware store. Put a cup or so of salt into a sandwich baggie (opened) at the bottom of the buckets. Then fill it with food stuffs and add a couple of ounces of dried ice (found at large grocery stores) which will remove the oxygen from the bucket after it's sealed. Finally, label each bucket with its contents and the date, and place it in your cellar.
 
I am thinking it might be a bio epidemic. At first I thought it might be water polution, but I have reconsidered that thought. Even with dried food a person needs water for 25 years too. If what ever happens lasts for 25 years the water supply will certainly be affected to some degree.
What part of California do you live in?


The great thing about a product lasting 25 years is that you can buy it now before something drastic happens, and you have it. Your clock now starts ticking, you will be prepared for the next 24 years in the event you need to use your supplies. Its not a matter of using it during a 25 year period. I don't think anyone can store 25 years worth of the stuff. Plus the price tag on 25 years of it would be around $150,000. In short, its just nice to have in the storage location knowing you have food that is not going to be bad or expired. Personally I like the Wise Company brand.
 
Wise and Mountain House (freeze dried) foods tend to get the best taste reviews. I've tried some of the Mountain House meals and they are pretty decent, even downright good. But, they are all expensive. Great for a get home bag, but you'd have to be rich to stock up on this exclusively.

Who would need to save food for 25 years?

Well, if nothing happens for another 10 years, then the stored item has 15 more years in it. ;)
 
The good old MRE they do taste better now as compared to when I was in the Army. Costco is also selling a 275 serving dehydrated pail for 85.00. I think that is a good deal and will be buying a couple in the next week or so.
Wal Mart sell the V2222 food saver with a wide mouth seal system on canning jars. You put your dry good in press the button it suck all the air out. I was putting away rice crispy today in half gallon jars. I done Rice ,Flour, place these type in oven for one hour at 200 degrees to kill any larva that may be in them. Pinto beans, potato flakes, oats, sugar, kool aid, cornmeal, pasta, it all work even powder milk.
 
Wal Mart sell the V2222 food saver with a wide mouth seal system on canning jars. You put your dry good in press the button it suck all the air out. I was putting away rice crispy today in half gallon jars. I done Rice ,Flour, place these type in oven for one hour at 200 degrees to kill any larva that may be in them. Pinto beans, potato flakes, oats, sugar, kool aid, cornmeal, pasta, it all work even powder milk.
Thanks for this info! It is greatly appreciated.
 

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