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Homicide rates by country per 100,000.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

U.S.A. 4.8 per 100,000
Guyana 19.42 per 100,000
Venezuela 57.15 per 100,000
See link for more information.
Bear in mind that the U.S.A. is the only nation in the world with anything
like a 2nd Amendment.
Also the U.S. is a VAST melting pot of races, religions, and cultures.
The U.S.A. has more guns in private hands than households yet
still does not have anything close to the highest homicide rate.

Misleading numbers for the US in the reports, it doesn't distinguish between justifiable unjustifiable 'homicide' so the numbers are skewed for political purposes.
 
Statistics should be a mandatory course in HS. Once you take the class, you realize how much you've been manipulated by anyone trying to use stats to support their argument.

Bottom line, no matter WHICH SIDE you are on, for an issue, you can easily cherry pick statistics to bolster your position. It's all in what you include and exclude from your data. But, the majority are not educated enough to understand these nuances of stats, so they blindly follow whatever agenda is being pushed, because hey, they have stats to back it up!

Also, follow the money. It may not be prudent to believe a study on cigarette related deaths, when the study was paid for by Marlboro, for example.... But, the average Joe will buy it...hook, line, and sinker.
 
I ran across a stack of 1940's and 50's magazines found in mother's home
and read cigarette adds that advertised Camel's as "being good for
the digestion."
Movie stars and sports figures were featured in the ads.
Everyone knows that Budweiser is the best beer in the world. The t-v says so.
"It's got the best ads so it must be the best product.":rolleyes:
 
"Also, follow the money."

Always. Politics, advertising, religion...................RELIGION?
YES, especially religion.
#1 is no surprise.
The Roman Catholic Church by far.
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/world/the-10-richest-religions-in-the-world/

Is our American News Media skewed politically.
Most absolutely.

ISLAM is capitalizing on the Las Vega massacre big time.

Without providing any evidence to support the claim, the Islamic State group on Monday said the gunman in the mass shooting in Las Vegas was "a soldier" from its ranks who had converted to Islam months ago.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-islamic-state-claims-las-vegas-mass-shooting
 
The Roman Catholic Church by far.

Did anyone catch the news that villages in the poorest areas
of Mexico and S. America sold what little they had to give to
the Catholic Church so the POPE could buy a new Pope-mobile.
Bullet proof no less.

The R.C.C. is the most corrupt "church" in the world.
 
The Roman Catholic Church by far.

Did anyone catch the news that villages in the poorest areas
of Mexico and S. America sold what little they had to give to
the Catholic Church so the POPE could buy a new Pope-mobile.
Bullet proof no less.

The R.C.C. is the most corrupt "church" in the world.
Nobody forced these people to sell their stuff and donate it to the church. Not sure how this example shows corruption in the Catholic Church.
 
Nobody forced these people to sell their stuff and donate it to the church. Not sure how this example shows corruption in the Catholic Church.

Depends upon what definition of "force" you mean.

Besides did I say "forced"?
The Priest has considerable power over the illiterate and weak minded.
Bishops extorted people for years by horrifying them that they’re departed loved ones were currently frying in Purgatory, and would remain there for a very long time, unless their surviving loved ones paid the Church money. This money would atone for the dead persons’ sins, and they would then enter Heaven. Indulgences are not supposed to be sold. If they were, people with lots of money would be holier than thou art.

Then there are the Catholic Bishops that sided and aided Hitler supporting
his rise to power.
Why? Well to get rid of the Jews of course. The Priests that helped
establish the "rat line" to aid escaping Nazi war criminals to South
America out of reach of any punishment.

I could go on, and on, and on, but why?
Anyone with a computer or library can investigate for themselves.
 
Hammers , knives , ball bats even bare hands do not get blamed for the crime committed by someone. No call to ban cars and booze when someone is killed by a drunk driver .
Blame the criminal, do not give the criminal a pass its their fault .

How did we get off topic? As I've said before, it will take time for whatever 'truth' about the shooting comes to surface.

But P7 made a great point. Think back to Prohibition. Booze was a problem, and nationwide it was banned. And the mafia was born. Crime went crazy & the police could do nothing about it. Smae thing here. Ban guns and crime will go insane.

But another set of questions was do I need 50 guns or 1000 rounds? Invalid question, it doesn't matter. 2nd amendment is about the people being able to take over the gov't if the gov't gets out of control. Short of nukes (and we could debate that), I think a person should be able to own any weapon they want. Battleship, missiles, you name it. Now if someone uses their weapons against others without cause then the consequences should be dire. Background check? Sure, we don't need felons or crazies fully armed. But once someone is 21 and cleared, have fun.
 
The SlideFire stock website shows all the patents on the stocks, every version and low and behold most were done while Obama was in office.....Obama's ATF approved a lot of gun stuff that Obama and his Zombie Horde railed against......After all when a POTUS fails to remove his AG for being involved in gun running which murdered a BP Agent it almost looks as though Obama was not really anti-gun as he said he was ? Obama also did not allow himself to be questioned on Chicago gun violence...makes me wonder how much Obama took from the gun lobby.....he and Hillary were not to proud to take money regardless of where it came from....the 2nd Amendment is very clear.....IF you want restrictions on it ? You are not PRO 2nd Amendment.....there are too many restrictions now....the Vegas shooter seems to have slipped through the cracks while knowing people turned a blind eye.....the story keeps changing which means it will be so muddy at some point it will all just fade away......a so called official story will come out a year from now and half will believe, half won't....same old song and dance....
 
Looks like black op controllers didnt get full control of the story line. Now the hotel and LEA have conflcting timelines.
 
In 2005, 43,443 people died from motor vehicle crash in the US. Divide that by 365 days gives your an average of 119 people per day........

Appalling isn't it. No one wants to ban cars.
Sure we make it hard on drunk driver as it should be.
How many traffic "accidents" might be suicide by car killing untold
innocents.
I know of one that was pretty clear.
A guy with known mental illness drove across the median and hit a van
head one killing himself and SIX in the van. Mom, dad, and four kids.
An entire family wiped out.
There have been passenger jets piloted by a suicidal person that
slammed into a mountain killing himself and hundreds of innocents.
9 -11. We all recall over 3,000 dead.
Radical Islam terrorism but no one bans Islam.
Perhaps we should.
There are liberals that want to erase the 2nd Amendment.
 
I won't post more on the corruption of the Church but members object
and I understand thread drift.
Sorry.
 
yeah the left wants the 2nd amendment gone,and the people as close to unarmed as they can get us,,,,,,,,,,,,and yes cars kill way more than guns but there is no push to ban cars ,,,,,I am not seeing much right now about this shooting,I hope it stays that way,I doubt it will,I will sit back and see what happens

I can not do anything about it anyways
 
yournewswire is a click bait site ran by sean adl tabatabai known as the fake news master, sean hates democracy so bad he creates fake news and pushes conspiracy theories to undermined democracy in the West, he is the left wing at it's worse and a major supporter of antifa. sean adl tabatabai is a major russian pawn ;) just an fyi
 
"Orville Almon: Family and friends don't expect any fowl play and wasn't surprised by his death.

Dennis and Lorraine Carver
: Lorraine Carver allegedly wrote on social media that her husband protected her from “shooters”. Carver and her husband Dennis were killed on 16 October 2017 in a car accident near their home in Murrieta, California, when their car veered off a curve in a road at 10:50 P.M., striking a metal gate and catching fire. Both were pronounced dead at the scene.

Danny Contreras: On 23 October 2017, police and fire personnel discovered the body of Danny Contreras, 35, who died of multiple gunshot wounds in a vacant home in Las Vegas. Police said they believe the homicide was narcotics-related. According to Neon Nettle, a now-suspended Twitter account apparently being used by a person using that name posted that he was lucky to have gotten out of the concert alive after being chased by two men with guns. However there is no evidence that the homicide victim was the same person who wrote the tweets — comparison of an image on a fundraiser for the murdered man launched on 25 October 2017 in North Las Vegas and the profile picture of the man pointed out by Neon Nettle appears to demonstrate that they are in fact two different people.

Chad Nishimura: Neon Nettle initially and falsely reported Nishimura, a Mandalay Bay hotel worker “disappeared” after he told a local news station he had valeted Paddock’s car and said Paddock “didn’t have any crazy bags with him that I can remember.” The conspiratorial web site is now reporting Nishimura was murdered outside the Las Vegas church, Iglesia La Luz del Mundo. A man named Hector Antonio Lemus-Flores, 45, of North Las Vegas, was murdered on 16 October 2017 outside that church. Neon Nettle simply transposed the details of Lemus-Flores’ death onto their story to falsely claim the victim had been Nishimura, who is alive.

Kymberley Suchomel: 28-year-old Suchomel passed away in her sleep a week after the massacre. According to her grandmother, who found her in bed in her Apple Valley, California home on 9 October 2017, Suchomel had seizures and was taking medication for a tumor. Suchomel was apparently experiencing trouble sleeping as sounds and images from the massacre would terrorize her at night. She drew the attention of conspiracy theorists with a now-private Facebook post attributed to her in which she said there was more than one shooter.

John Beilman: On 4 October 2017, Beilman, 60, shot and killed his severely-disabled 27-year-old daughter in the backyard of their Fairport, New York home before turning the gun on himself. There is no connection between that tragedy and the Las Vegas massacre — a link between the two deadly incidents was established exclusively by disreputable conspiracy sites like WhatDoesItMean. According to RationalWiki, the work on that web site is of such quality that “even other conspiracy nutters don’t think much of it.”"
 
Lets face it, the CIA has a gun that can shoot you and make it look like a damn heart attack. If you really think the government can't steer a car off the road, or make it look like a seizure patient dies in her sleep, can't help ya....

There's just a ton of fishy things about the whole incident, and most of it points to the narrative of a lone shooter being about as ridiculous as Oswald being the only shooter in the JFK assassination.
 
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