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We defeated the 3rd largest Army in the world twice in just a few days in Desert Storm and I raqie Freedom but now Obama acts like this is somthing he needs to be cautious about . A band of thugs maby 40.000 strong .
 
Psalm, you miss the point and the threat mon ami, its not the 30,500 armed scum over there you need concern yourself with, its their relatives, friends and extended families with similar views living among us.
 
Airstrikes alone won't do it, but alone, they can totally destroy ISIS' ability to make war and hold territory. It will take eventual boots on the ground and establishing bases, in order to prevent such a surge in the future, and you can bet that's why this whole thing was allowed (yes, allowed) to happen in the first place.

Of course, I think the boots aren't going to hit the ground until after a few waves of really intensive air attacks, and then a cool-off period, to see what happens afterwards.

As for people among us trying to commit a terror act. Bring it on. You think someone nowadays could hijack an airliner with a box-cutter? No way.
 
No I agree with that point but I'm saying thes armed thugs could have been destroyed befor they ever made the news . The ones liveing among us will have to be dealt with sooner or later . No politician wants to be the one ordering the rounding up and detaining of imagrant family's or it being done on their term .
 
"As for people among us trying to commit a terror act. Bring it on. You think someone nowadays could hijack an airliner with a box-cutter? No way."

Narrow thinking their young feller :) Look at the Serving Muslim officer in Fort Hood TX, they don't need to do " spectactulars" they can simply avail themselves of guns and go visit the local Mall or School, heck they can even copy the Brit muslim terrorists and drive a vehicle into a crowd of innocent people at a sports even.

For Islam to truly rattle the US all they need to do is carry out a few attacks in a few smallville American towns to create fear and paranoia.

That dude at the gas station filling cans with fuel, that chap buying bags of fertiliser, that man in Wallmart buying guns, ...... hmm dark skin, slightly furtive behaviour, Is he Indian, Pakistani or Mexican, is he Hindu, Catholic, Muslim, Sikh, Why is a group of them meeting at the old camp ground? for a BBQ or a spot of clay pigeon shooting or are they plotting an attack. It would only take a few low impact attacks on a semi regular basis spread out across the US for the extremists to cause panic and paranoia and chaos usually followed by over reaction by the government and media. IRA terror training 101 random attacks over a large area at unpredictable targets. Also worked well for the Cong in Vietnam I'm told.
 
"No politician wants to be the one ordering the rounding up and detaining of immigrant family's or it being done on their term ."


How would they achieve that, lets says the Islamist follow normal terror campaign doctrine and start attacking small town America, a shooting here, bombing there, arson some place else, derail a train, shoot up a diner, blow up a church..

How are you going to identify and round up likely terror families? For example in the British media the main culprits accused of terrorist attacks with American links were so far 3 WHITE American converts, Quite a lot of BLACK muslim converts who are according to your own social media some of the most aggressive types, then the Asian community muslims, sikhs, buddists, hindus etc . Its damn near impossible.
 
For Islam to truly rattle the US all they need to do is carry out a few attacks in a few smallville American towns to create fear and paranoia

Hehe, not so young, but I get your point. Thing is, I don't think small isolated acts, or even a few coordinated ones, are going to instil fear anymore. If anything, it would likely fuel a bigotry and hatred against Muslims, and while I feel for them (those who are just like you and me, and not extremists), unless they speak out loud and early against such acts, they'll be wrongly persecuted and seen as being in cahoots with them.

That said, a few false flag attacks would certainly galvanize public opinion to wiping ISIS off the face of the Earth all the more sooner, wouldn't it? (and without any politically correct behavior required)....
 
After 9/11 the U.s Government revoked alot of Visa's and also rounded up alot that had over stayed their work/school Visa's for thousands that were from terorist host Countries just because of where they were from . I know a some that were deported 1 worked for the same company that I do . Not sure if you have seen some of the footage of the Feds rounding up illigals in the 70's and 80's the liberal media always compares it to nazi tactics . That is the image that politicians would want to avoid . I do believe we will see small cell's of terrorist attacking Malls and sports events just like the Boston Marathon and the Mall in Kenya . Then the image of deporting potential threats may not offend so many .
 
I'll go on record now and say this...if our actions there don't involve the establishment of US bases within a year in Iraq and Syria, then all that will happen is a brief period of reorganization, before ISIS (or it's remnants under some new name) regroup, then retake equipment and territory from the new, untrained, freshly resupplied local forces. Sadly, I can almost bank on the latter being the case, with the current rhetoric from our "leaders".....
 
Cameron is no better and we've got a general election next year, he's more concerned about Scottish Independence, all his talk about ISIS is just smoke and mirrors.
Obama and ISIS..... He will talk a good talk when he has to (most know they are all lies), but in all reality, he would rather it just goes away. . These airstrikes are not going to destroy them and even if we got most of them, it's a mind set for these people. Get rid of one group and here comes another. Al-Qaeda, ISIS, ?, ?. . . and it will go on
 
there are days when I really wish we were back in the days of cold-war....clear borders..clear enemys, no confusion..
 
If we are going to do airstrikes only, then lets get the hell on with it, and hit the main HQ first, shall we? What the heck is the hold up?
 
yup,why hit some obscure foxhole at the front and take out one terrorist,when missiles should be raining on HQ... you kill a snake by cutting its head not the tail
 
Why the heck does our fearless leader want to micro manage . . . . he has to give the say so for every attack? Last I knew, he never served and didn't go to West Point. Is it so that he can give the heads up to his Muslim brothers?
 
Has anyone seen the picture of the British Female that went to join isis as a "nurse" holding up the sivered head infront of the little indigenoue kids with the caption isis did a good job or something like that ?
 
good lord,that type of creature sure needs a 7,62 through her forehead
 

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