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Is that what we over here call Coal Tar Soap?

Similar in function but different, fels-naptha is a soap one doesn't want to leave on the skin very long, it works great for poison ivy and poison oak plus skin rash and acme, coal tar works great for rash and acme plus a good clothes soap if dissolved, I'm not sure if coal tar works for poison ivy/oak on skin and clothes like fels-naptha ?
 
Speaking of hygiene, the one bar of soap that should be part of everyone's hygiene kit is fels-naptha, I've used it for years for various things, it can be used from clothes soap to hand soap to medical needs. Practically everybody still caries this 120+ year soap. FYI, store it in the garage or bucket with lid ;) the scent like mothballs is over powering in confined spaces!
I'm guessing that's some sort of lye soap?
 
Similar in function but different, fels-naptha is a soap one doesn't want to leave on the skin very long, it works great for poison ivy and poison oak plus skin rash and acme, coal tar works great for rash and acme plus a good clothes soap if dissolved, I'm not sure if coal tar works for poison ivy/oak on skin and clothes like fels-naptha ?

We dont have poison oak in the UK and poison ivy is rare as well. A very good soap I use for its healing / anti septic properties is Tea Tree oil Soap
 
I'm guessing that's some sort of lye soap?

The ingredients;

Contains soap consisting of sodium tallowate and sodium cocoate or sodium palmate kernelate and sodium palmate. The word "sodium" refers to sodium hydroxide, the lye used to make soap, in this case with tallow, coconut oil, palm oil or palm kernel oil. It also contains water and talc. Coconut acid, palm acid and tallow acid are fatty acids derived from plants and animals. They are emollients and surfactants, cleaning agents in other words. PEG-6 methyl is an extract of juniper. Fels-Naptha also contains glycerin, an emollient; sorbitol, a sugar alcohol derived from fruits, corn and seaweed, a moisturizer; and sodium chloride, ordinary table salt. Pentasodium pentetate tetrasodium etidronate are inorganic salts used as emulsifiers and dispersing agents. Titatium dioxide is an opaque white pigment.
 
Just study history. Whole communities thrived before electricity. Learn how they went about their daily lives.

Exactly. It HAS been done before, and still is in some parts of the world.

The problem is most modern homes aren't set up for it. A fireplace is a must, but even with that, mine isn't set up for cooking.

Mine neither, so one my things is to be able to utilize it this way. But, we also have a lot of outdoor grill space too, and with both propane and charcoal. Soon, we'll also add a firepit with a rotisserie capability.

Luckily my system uses a septic tank, so as long as I can get water for the toilet tank I don't have to worry about an outhouse.

Same boat here, and we have 4 bathrooms, but I still want to make an outhouse out by the stables. Just because if you have to go rather suddenly, it's a LONG walk to the house from there, LOL. (though there's always a stall and sawdust, lol...as long as one is willing to clean up)....

A solar pump would sure be a nice addition, beats the heck out of a bucket!

Yeah, this is definitely a MUST for us. We went for two months without the use of the pump (while we waited to fix a water leak), and that bucket crap got OLD quick.... If we have nothing else solar powered, the water pump is definitely one of them.

Now is when we all need to be working on these things as it's a lot easier to build things with electricity and a hardware store down he road. It will be a lot harder after things go south.

Exactly why we prep. That, and the fact that it's simply nice to have these conveniences when little things happen to temporarily disrupt things. Even a minor power outage in a rural area can last hours (because service is based on restoring to as many customers as possible as a priority)...so good to be up and running while others panic.
 
I bought some more bleach tablets today. Also bought some more soap, shampoo, and some water tablets. The tablets are a two pack by Coleman, one for sanitation and one for taste. Don't know if they are worth a darn, and hope I never need to find out. This was all brought about by this thread bringing this to my attention.
 
Concerning cleanliness, has anyone considered a toilet system called the Clivus Multrum? It uses no water, is odor free, has no moving parts, and is certified for use in environmentally sensitive areas. It is a composting toilet that needs emptied after 4 or 5 years, and no known human pathogens can survive that long in this system. It's a bit pricey, but seems like it would pay for itself in reducing water expenses alone.
 
Concerning cleanliness, has anyone considered a toilet system called the Clivus Multrum? It uses no water, is odor free, has no moving parts, and is certified for use in environmentally sensitive areas. It is a composting toilet that needs emptied after 4 or 5 years, and no known human pathogens can survive that long in this system. It's a bit pricey, but seems like it would pay for itself in reducing water expenses alone.
I think the composting toilets are a cool idea. Cabellas has one for 100.00. It's small but would work for 1 person. You can upgrade to add a fan to speed up evaporation too. Most systems are a seperate tank outside and run 1500 to 2000.00, with electric heaters for evaporation. Even though they need to be emptied some, for one or two people a single unit would work, and can be had for 500.00 or so. The drawback is you still need to figure out what to do with the bath and sink waste water. Granted it's not as bad to let this run on the ground, but most places would still require a septic system.
 
I think the composting toilets are a cool idea. Cabellas has one for 100.00. It's small but would work for 1 person. You can upgrade to add a fan to speed up evaporation too. Most systems are a seperate tank outside and run 1500 to 2000.00, with electric heaters for evaporation. Even though they need to be emptied some, for one or two people a single unit would work, and can be had for 500.00 or so. The drawback is you still need to figure out what to do with the bath and sink waste water. Granted it's not as bad to let this run on the ground, but most places would still require a septic system.
When I was a kid many people let their grey water run out to their garden (now days I think you'd want to watch what soap you use). For winter they just ran it to a hole in the ground. When I built my cabin years ago I took a 55 gal barrel drilled holes in it and buried it. I ran the water from the sink and shower to this barrel. Had an outhouse for everything else.
 
When I was a kid many people let their grey water run out to their garden (now days I think you'd want to watch what soap you use). For winter they just ran it to a hole in the ground. When I built my cabin years ago I took a 55 gal barrel drilled holes in it and buried it. I ran the water from the sink and shower to this barrel. Had an outhouse for everything else.
the barrel works fine but if you put gravel all around the barrel it works even better
 
Concerning cleanliness, has anyone considered a toilet system called the Clivus Multrum? It uses no water, is odor free, has no moving parts, and is certified for use in environmentally sensitive areas. It is a composting toilet that needs emptied after 4 or 5 years, and no known human pathogens can survive that long in this system. It's a bit pricey, but seems like it would pay for itself in reducing water expenses alone.
that sounds a lot like a old fashioned outhouse
 
No, it's not an outhouse because it's sealed.

I have trouble trusting outhouses post SHTF because I plan to use well water, and I have concerns about flies, and diseases such as dysentary, cholera, tetanus, typhoid, etc..

The clivus multrum supposedly mitigates all of these concerns, is user friendly, environmentally sound...and the composted material can be used in a garden.

The original model built right after WWII in Sweden is still supposedly in service and working fine.
 
No, it's not an outhouse because it's sealed.

I have trouble trusting outhouses post SHTF because I plan to use well water, and I have concerns about flies, and diseases such as dysentary, cholera, tetanus, typhoid, etc..

The clivus multrum supposedly mitigates all of these concerns, is user friendly, environmentally sound...and the composted material can be used in a garden.

The original model built right after WWII in Sweden is still supposedly in service and working fine.

Kevin if you are looking at growing food close to your toilet system have you considered the bilogical filtration system using a reed bed and pond to convert waste into pond plant and fish food? Its often found in locations this side of the pond, toilet waste is fed into an upper pond where it has to pass through reed beds before it reaches a lower pond. it allows the reeds to take out the nutrients and for the aneribic bacteria to do its work before being released into a carp pond?
 
A very interesting idea, and I shall have to research it.

Does it really remove waterbourne pathogens, of which there are many?

Dunno TBH but it does convert human waste via the nitrogen cycle into plant and fish food, personally I would still run any water source through my Berkfield first or boil it.
 

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