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Well you have the best I have ever seen. Interesting it utilizes a .2 micron ceramic filter.
Expensive at the counter but I could see the reward.
Thank you, I have been schooled, and that is not often.

Though every place I researched it said it did not kill 99.99% of waterborn Viruses.
So any waterway downstream of populated areas I would not siphen from LOL.

I will still give you your credit it appears to be the best hand filtration unit I have ever seen.
I feel some much better that you GAVE me credit. wtf, man, have ever been in the field ? I mean real time, not a over night with your scouts. Sounds like you know a lot off stuff on paper and you do your research but I see through that, I think you are the weak link.
 
when i was 5, i went with an "uncle" (moms bf LOL) and they had only brought their poles. i kept bitching i wanted to fish, so to shut me up, dude tied a string (not fishing line btw, but string) to a stick, and put a hook with a worm on it............... boy were they all pissed when they caught nothing and i brought home a 1 foot rainbow trout! LOL!
Krime I work as a support worker and I took this guy who has downsyndrome fishing I had all the right gear and he had this realy flimsy toy town fresh water kit I was 100% sure that if he even got a bite his rod or line would snap, so smallest weight and the smallest bait I could cut on for him, and by the end of the day he had two sea bass and I had 性交 all hahaha funny thing fishing
 
This is my thought. Look to America at the beginning of the industrial revolution. Before electricity and Gasoline, people still lived in houses, had plumbing, indoor kitchens, even freezers. It wasn't easy as today but people lived quite nicely then. Look for info of how people lived back then. And look into biofuels.
 
A lot of things can be scavenged from trash or anything laying around. You can boil water in a pop can. Animal pelts can be used for clothing or blankets. And so forth might have to revert back to how it was all done some time ago.
 
I agree with y'all about how this country has changed. That is my reason for leaving. Most of my friends feel like I'm abandoning my country. But this IS NOT MY COUNTRY...my country died a long time ago. This is still my people ..... but the country we loved is gone...Just waiting for the funeral procession to begin.
 
Use lessons taught by the natives. Collect and purify water in animal bladders. Fish with a spear and traps. Hunt with a bow and snares. Make rope and twine from bark and sinew. Knives from stone and bones. Hunt, gather, garden, and barter.

If all else fails sneak back to what remains of civilization and re-supply.
 
Use lessons taught by the natives. Collect and purify water in animal bladders. Fish with a spear and traps. Hunt with a bow and snares. Make rope and twine from bark and sinew. Knives from stone and bones. Hunt, gather, garden, and barter.

If all else fails sneak back to what remains of civilization and re-supply.

Though Native American life back in the day wasn't dealing with the amount of people and the limited resources, that kind of life style in today's world would be dealing with. In fact today we will be dealing with an harsher environment without the availability that once sustained Native Americans, majority of the so called civilized people today have never held a fishing spear much less bow and arrows, the Natives was raised in that environment learning the ways of their ancestors from the time of their birth today however the civilized must learn from books at an much older age, the odds are stacked against the not so young though not the young, teaching the young the old ways makes for a better future ;)
 
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Though Native American life back in the day wasn't dealing with the amount of people and the limited resources, that kind of life style in today's world would be dealing with. In fact today we will be dealing with an harsher environment without the availability that once sustained Native Americans, majority of the so called civilized people today have never held a fishing spear much less bow and arrows, the Natives was raised in that environment learning the ways of their ancestors from the time of their birth today however the civilized must learn from books at an much older age, the odds are stacked against the not so young though not the young, teaching the young the old ways makes for a better future ;)
Good point, the environment is not nearly as rich as it was. Even the water has been polluted to the point you can't safely drink from creeks and streams anymore. There are lots of deer here, as we've whiped out all there predators, but most of the wildlife has been killed off. It's not just knowledge of survival we've lost, but a lot of the resources as well.
 
Wilderness survival is hard to explain to someone that has never been into extended primitive camping trip . On the ground with what you have . The key is to have onhand what you need . Not weighted down with huge packs but keep to the basics for your area . The difference being in survival there is no packing up and going home and your survival depends on making good decisions . Some food and ability to secure more , some water and able to filter and boil more , shelter (sleeping bag and light tarp or tent ) and able to build shelter . Good boots and clothing , compass & map of area , good field knife and pocket knife , multi ways to build fire , extra ammo as you think will be needed for that area and threats . Of all the water and ammo is the heaviest . All this can be carried on a web set and pockets or small back pack . Water has to be planned by . is there water avalible in that area ? Ammo has to be planned by how much is needed . I like to carry 210 rounds for my rifle and 50 rounds for hand gun . And 3 guarts of water but thats not always the right choice . I know one old SF Vet that would carry the standard battl rattle load out like I mentioned or would almost double it . And some times would only carry the mag in his rifle and one spare , the mag in his pistole only and no water just fill up befor the mission . This relied on intence planning and fool proofing . Worked for him , He's still around . That gets back to the decision making I mentioned earlier .
 
I agree with y'all about how this country has changed. That is my reason for leaving. Most of my friends feel like I'm abandoning my country. But this IS NOT MY COUNTRY...my country died a long time ago. This is still my people ..... but the country we loved is gone...Just waiting for the funeral procession to begin.


I know this is a old post that someone dug up but cant help but to comment . This is the same Country its allways been its the wants and trends of the people that have changed . Thats where the Government gets its power if over 1/2 the people will sale out to the powers so they can take it easy and fill warm and fuzzy then it changes the tone of our civilazation but I can still live the same as me and my folks have for Genarations . Most of the people around here do . Same traditions same way of life . Its what you make of it . I know its more complicated than that but just to keep it simple .
 
This is my thought. Look to America at the beginning of the industrial revolution. Before electricity and Gasoline, people still lived in houses, had plumbing, indoor kitchens, even freezers. It wasn't easy as today but people lived quite nicely then. Look for info of how people lived back then. And look into biofuels.

Pretty much it in a nutshell. Yeah, I want to survive post SHTF, but living in a tent in the middle of the woods is NOT my idea of pulling through it. I still want running water, a sound roof over my head, toilets, etc., so I plan to do so.
 
Pretty much it in a nutshell. Yeah, I want to survive post SHTF, but living in a tent in the middle of the woods is NOT my idea of pulling through it. I still want running water, a sound roof over my head, toilets, etc., so I plan to do so.


True but as we may not predict the time and place of SHTF . Its good to know how to deal with being caught away and have to make your way home or one of the worst case's being displaced by a gang . In wich my goal would be to take my farm back . I could could live a nice homestead life now but intend to keep modern convieniances as long as possible .
 
That's the rub. If anything does go down, chances are, I will be at work (50 miles from home), and my wife will be at work (another 10 miles out of my way, and 10 miles back to my way), so it's definitely a challenge I face. (Why I'll go by truck as far as I possibly can!)
 
I believe it is smart to learn and even practice the more primitive 'old ways' of doing things. You just never know what may happen in the future. . . . Is your home and what you have prepared for even going to be there. It's something to think about and consider. Why you always need a back up and a back up for that too. I have seen homes totally destroyed and people who literally only had the clothes on their backs left. Sometimes you don't get much of a warning when a natural disaster hits.
 
Gear is just tools. The real prep is knowing how to do things. For a true Bug Out Bag, those tools should be about sustainability. Don't mix up a Get Home Bag vs a true Bug Out Bag.

So, having flint and steel to make fire is better than a lighter, having a water filter vs stored water (and knowing you can boil it), and having seeds and hunting/fishing tools, all cater more towards sustainable existence, vs running out of supplies.
 
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
— Robert Heinlein,


Gear is just tools. The real prep is knowing how to do things. For a true Bug Out Bag, those tools should be about sustainability. Don't mix up a Get Home Bag vs a true Bug Out Bag.

So, having flint and steel to make fire is better than a lighter, having a water filter vs stored water (and knowing you can boil it), and having seeds and hunting/fishing tools, all cater more towards sustainable existence, vs running out of supplies.
 
My BOB reflects the idea that I might be come a long-term refugee.

I have a Katadyn water filter (with spare ceramic filter element) which, with careful, cautious use, could provide almost 30,000 gallons of drinkable water, and I have gold and silver coins for barter and bribery purposes.

Clothes can be scavenged from the dead, any cordage can be used for snares and traps, automobile tires make excellent sandals, and rats taste like chicken.

I rely more upon my skills than stuff.

If the stuff runs out, I will have to work harder...but I suspect that I'll live.
 

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