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I couldn't answer that question honestly as I am simply not aware of the statistics, I could say that the majority of gun related crime only tends to apply to criminal organizations attacking each other currently, oh you get the odd twat holding up a 7-eleven with a .22 or an air rifle sometimes even a .303 or wife shoots husband scenario.

What I mean to say is, your everyday Australian is more likely to be worried about being punched out by some drunk tard than being shot, you would honestly have to be deeply involved in serious crime or extremely unlucky for it to happen to you. That much I can tell you honestly, it works for our country, I don't know how it would go for your country, we had different weapons laws to America before prior to that anyway.

Anyway I'll stop hijacking this thread off topic :D
 
RV-Kitty Canada was part of the Commonwealth :p and please note I did say "maybe" you are 100% correct the type of and the scope of the disaster would dictate the worlds ability to pull together, I for one am not Prepping with the idea in mind that help will come, I am Prepping for being completly abandoned, if help does arrive or if the world does go back to life as we know it now, i'll consider myself somewhat lucky.

If we become completely abandoned with no Gov and no armed services, another country will move in and take us over. It's inevitable. That is unless the SHTF on a Global scale and all Nations are reduced to rubble so to speak. Other lands would love to move in and take over our resources. There would be nothing to stop them.
 
if smoke to be an issue smokeless charcoal for bbq in conjunction with pellets (used in pellet stoves) loaded in the fireplace, compress the pellets on the charcoal with heavy iron keeping the heavy iron plate on top , very little if any smoke would be visible but bear in mind during the winter heat signatures will still be visible
 
O.K. I have only been prepping for a short time but I have a question I have not seen addressed. My wife and I live in upstate New York where it can get very cold in winter. We have natural gas heat for our furnace. If SHTF happens, any ideas on an alternative heat source. Thanks.
Hi Gerard150-
My husband and I live and ranch at 8100' elevation....and it gets seriously cold here! This winter we had a span of 3 weeks where the temps ranged from -19 to -26 every night. We heat our home with wood, no other heat source. Granted our modest 'lil house is only 1700 sq ft but it is toasty warm. My dad always said "wood heat, heats you twice--once when you cut it and again when you burn it"!

Blessings,
Shenandoah
 
The Winter in Norway can be very cold. Most houses have a wood stove in addition to normal electricity heaters.
But also very important is not letting the heat in the house get away. So make sure windows, doors and every thing that can let warm air leak out and cold air get in is Sealed best way possible. In many houses you can sit down by a window and feel the cold air get in.

And have sleeping bags stored in the house...
 
The Winter in Norway can be very cold. Most houses have a wood stove in addition to normal electricity heaters.
But also very important is not letting the heat in the house get away. So make sure windows, doors and every thing that can let warm air leak out and cold air get in is Sealed best way possible. In many houses you can sit down by a window and feel the cold air get in.

And have sleeping bags stored in the house...
Here in MN (I can't speak for other locations in the USA) our houses are sealed up pretty tight but newer houses have fresh air intakes near furnaces...back in the 70's they were making houses so airtight that people were getting sick from lack of fresh air in houses. We have a small duct that brings fresh air in near the furnace to help with that. Older homes don't have the problem with being too air-tight...they are notoriously drafty!

We have a forced air natural gas furnace but when the power goes out we have a wood burning furnace that supplements. It doesn't move the air around so it takes a while to heat the entire house...it is nice...the central area is toasty warm and the outer parts are cool/cold but that is what blankets are for!
 
Wood worked for our ancestors for ages. As for smoke, in a SHTF situation, it'll be so dark at night, that smoke shouldn't be too big of a concern...and that's when it is likely to be coldest...at night. (and there are clever ways to divert smoke, if that is really a big deal).
 
Wood worked for our ancestors for ages. As for smoke, in a SHTF situation, it'll be so dark at night, that smoke shouldn't be too big of a concern...and that's when it is likely to be coldest...at night. (and there are clever ways to divert smoke, if that is really a big deal).

Had a fire in the kitchen cookstove this morning! This is our only heat in the kitchen, works perfect for us!!
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That is a beautiful piece of art right there. Eventually, I'll convince the wife to get one, but I'm sure it will be a long while.
 
this is something I wonder aswell when living in a city,this winter wasn't that bad but usually is.
 

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