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There's very little smell if you get one of the better newer units. And you have to trim the wick as needed. We never once get soot from ours.

I agree kerosene works very well just light and turn off the heater out side and there is hardly any smell at all, also kerosene lasts forever, I just used up the last of my Y2K kerosene a couple monthes ago it still burned great.
 
The rest of the world maybe busy dealing with the same problems in thier homelands.

Since when has America been alone? Don't count Australia out, or the Commonwealth.
 
The rest of the world maybe busy dealing with the same problems in thier homelands.

Since when has America been alone? Don't count Australia out, or the Commonwealth.

Don't get me wrong I like Australia It's a great place to visit, but like you said they will probaly be bussy with thier own problems, anyway Aussies don't have guns how will they help defend us if they can't defend themselves?
 
By other countries do you mean the UN? NO THANKS!! And when was the last time another country hepled the US?

I read several countries offered help during Katrina but were refused. I don't recall which Nations they were. Without a Gov and completely lawless without an armed service, we would be a prime target for any aggressive nation out there. The small number of preppers, no matter how devoted and experienced with arms they are, will not hold off another Nation's army. That would be another danger we would face.

And by the way I've travled to many other countries most are still living in 1800s conditions now, some even back in the dark ages. Don't fool yourself, if something bad happens we're on our own, and also FYI Noah's flood killed the dinosaurs.;)

Are you kidding me? The dinosaurs were wiped out 65,000,000 years ago. I wish Christians can make up their minds. You have those sects that are "old earth" and those who are "new earth" and yet there has never been a worldwide flood. The Noah story was based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.
 
The rest of the world maybe busy dealing with the same problems in thier homelands.

That would depend on what the disaster is.

Since when has America been alone? Don't count Australia out, or the Commonwealth.

America wont stand alone. Canada has always been there and what of Mexico? We've supported Israel for ages, they surely would come forward..... no guarantees I know.
 
RV-Kitty Canada was part of the Commonwealth :p and please note I did say "maybe" you are 100% correct the type of and the scope of the disaster would dictate the worlds ability to pull together, I for one am not Prepping with the idea in mind that help will come, I am Prepping for being completly abandoned, if help does arrive or if the world does go back to life as we know it now, i'll consider myself somewhat lucky.

Oh and Wild Man, we have guns here, rifle shooting is pretty big in Australia, along with hunting.
 
I read several countries offered help during Katrina but were refused. I don't recall which Nations they were. Without a Gov and completely lawless without an armed service, we would be a prime target for any aggressive nation out there. The small number of preppers, no matter how devoted and experienced with arms they are, will not hold off another Nation's army. That would be another danger we would face.

Maybe you should tell that to the Viet Cong and the Talaban in Afghanistan

Are you kidding me? The dinosaurs were wiped out 65,000,000 years ago. I wish Christians can make up their minds. You have those sects that are "old earth" and those who are "new earth" and yet there has never been a worldwide flood. The Noah story was based on the Epic of Gilgamesh.

I knew that Noah comment would get you going, you atheist are always so easy to get started up. And by the way the Epic of Gilgamesh is based on Noah's flood
 
Let it go wild man. You singed my eyebrows when you threw the gas on it. It was funny though
I didn't mean any harm it was all in good fun everyone is free to believe what ever they want
 
Oh and Wild Man, we have guns here, rifle shooting is pretty big in Australia, along with hunting.

Good to hear Dannyboy I stand corrected I was under the impression y'all had to turn in or register your fire arms
 
We cut the old style butane tanks into and weld tops and doors on them. Then we weld a stick of exaust tubing on top and bottom for a smokestack and to draw air in. We put a damper in the bottom pipe. You just drill a hole in the floor where it can draw air from the outside and drill a hole in the roof. You can also use a freon bottle if you want one smaller. We use them in deer stands all the time
 
Good to hear Dannyboy I stand corrected I was under the impression y'all had to turn in or register your fire arms

I liked your comment about the Viet Cong, My father was 4RAR

You are correct on the quoted text too, civilians had to hand in pretty much anything that could be used as an assault weapon and register everything else that wasn't allready registered, allot of weapons got shredded under that scheme. Our military have the military hardware, that works for us in this country, what I meant was we still have rifles, just not the way you guys do.

Sorry if I came across as being on the defensive, I was just making conversation.
 
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This will heat a 16 x 16 room. It uses outside air for combustion therefore it won't deplete the oxygen. Besides the warmest air in the room is right in front of the fire. Its a shame that is where most fireplaces draw their air from.
 
That would depend on what the disaster is.



America wont stand alone. Canada has always been there and what of Mexico? We've supported Israel for ages, they surely would come forward..... no guarantees I know.
After the way you ve spoken of Israelites and their God I can hear them coming now.
 
That heater looks all right, you could really make one out of almost any heavy metal chamber, reminds me a little of a slow combustion Pot Belly Stove.
 
I liked your comment about the Viet Cong, My father was 4RAR

You are correct on the quoted text too, civilians had to hand in pretty much anything that could be used as an assault weapon and register everything else that wasn't allready registered, allot of weapons got shredded under that scheme. Our military have the military hardware, that works for us in this country, what I meant was we still have rifles, just not the way you guys do.

Sorry if I came across as being on the defensive, I was just making conversation.


It's all good mate, I love a good conversation. My father also served in Vietnam. Can I ask you a question? Did the crime rate there go down when y'all turned in and registered your weapons and did the criminals turn in and register theirs also? Because that is what our government wants us to believe but, I'm not buying it. And if it works for y'all there that’s great, I feel that we here cannot trust our government enough to turn in our weapons. Our police are a bunch of jack booted thugs and criminals and don't even get me started about the Dept. of Homeland Security.
 

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