Hawaii

[Roninsensei]

My cousin was on the phone with her mother and us saying a tearful goodbye. She and her roommates where hiding in the bathtub waiting. They got several alerts for 40 minutes it was actually giving them a countdown. When it hit 5 minutes to impact the tv finally gave the false alarm message. This doesn’t seem like an accident to me. It went on without cancellation for 38 minutes. They are in cover your ### mode right now but, it was waaaay worse than the media is saying. This is a lib run island so the media is DowN playing it for them however the residents aren’t buying the oops story that’s being pushed now.

 

[jontte]

40 mins is a looooooong time...

 

[Gauntlet]

Yeah I definitely feel like we're not being told the whole story. Now if it was Trumps fault then we would probably have every single detail by now..

 

[Gazrok]

Wow, 40 minutes, and multiple sources? That would even freak me out.

I really wish folks were more educated on it though. It seems that years of Hollywood falsehoods and media BS has really made us mostly ignorant of the true scope of a nuclear attack. It's FAR smaller than you'd think.

No missile (even at the height of the cold war) is going to take out the whole island. Modern nukes would take a good portion of a city at best.

Not to mention, in an actual attack, there are at least 5 (public) layers of defense of the BMDS (Ballistic Missile Defense System). You can also bet there are some components of this that are NOT public. (Russia has a version of this too, by the way).... China, oddly, has only a very limited system (but they have the easier job, like Russia, of protecting only a few vital targets)...

To really get an inbound to actually detonate over a target (and modern nukes are airburst weapons, meaning way less fallout), a foe would have to launch a pretty good number of missiles to get penetration to target.