Don't be naive about your food and water stash

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WyomingMan

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I'll relate a story from about 20 years ago.
I was bicycling up a mountain in New Mexico. 10,800' and knew there was a small "convenience store" at the top. I thought I had brought enough water, but hadn't. 1/2 way up I was out. Getting thirsty. Then terribly thirsty. Sign said 3 miles, but I was going less than 3mph in gear 1 of 21. Pretty soon I started looking in the ditch for perhaps discarded beer/soda cans. Anything with a glint in the sun caught my eye. Maybe there were a few drops? I kept going. Desperate. Tourists passed me in cars now and then. Perhaps I should try to flag them down? Explain my situation? Ask for a drink?
What if they refused? Eventually I started having thoughts of TAKING WHAT THEY HAD BY FORCE and by ANY MEANS NECESSARY. I'm normally a rational man. These thoughts scared me.
Luckily, I came within view of the summit and gorged myself on water at their dispenser.

The point of this post is that desperate people will do ANYTHING to get your water, your food, your shelter, your medicine when it becomes necessary. Especially for a loved one, a spouse or a child. Especially a child. Don't fool yourself that people will be well behaved and civilized.

If you don't have a means of defending your stash, it WILL be taken.
 
If possible, I share food and water. I have many times during disasters.

This doesn't mean that I become some martyr who will starve myself to death out of overwhelming, irresistible generosity.....but I like to share and give.

This has even given back to me in the long run when a dentist (I gave his daughter and grandkid bottled water after a hurricane, and made sure that I checked on them) treated me for free with some very expensive dental work.

My spiritual beliefs almost require me to share when I have and other people don't.

It has caused me some problems, but--by and large--it's been a winning strategy.
 
unfortunatelly,there will be far more of those that are vastly un-prepped / no preps at all,than those who are prepped,don't see any other way
than keeping mine,helping my family and that's it,ain't precisely the UN food bank in quantity of stuff
 
unfortunatelly,there will be far more of those that are vastly un-prepped / no preps at all,than those who are prepped,don't see any other way
than keeping mine,helping my family and that's it,ain't precisely the UN food bank in quantity of stuff
I agree with you.

When I'm saying that I try to be generous and giving, that doesn't mean that I'll starve to death and/or endanger myself or my family by allowing my stash to get looted.

I understand security and discretion.

There are ways to be generous without betraying the source of the generosity. As an example, food can be quietly given through a church that feeds the needy.

Another way is to commit a portion of your work and labor toward helping others. I'm quite agnostic, yet I try to volunteer in a soup kitchen every now and then when I can with a local church.

There are other ways to help that don't require someone to be a victim of their own generosity.
 
I agree with you.

When I'm saying that I try to be generous and giving, that doesn't mean that I'll starve to death and/or endanger myself or my family by allowing my stash to get looted.

I understand security and discretion.

There are ways to be generous without betraying the source of the generosity. As an example, food can be quietly given through a church that feeds the needy.

Another way is to commit a portion of your work and labor toward helping others. I'm quite agnostic, yet I try to volunteer in a soup kitchen every now and then when I can with a local church.

There are other ways to help that don't require someone to be a victim of their own generosity.
I'm with you on this one Kevin. I'll share what I can when I can. As long as it doesn't affect taking care of my family. Family will always come first. Currently we raise far more beef, chicken, eggs, pork and produce than we can eat. Right now lot of the excess is sold or traded. Plus we give away a lot of food directly to those who need it, and donate to the senior center. Even after SHTF we'll still have the same excess food production.
 
i'll do for folks in the here n now.by taking someone some food and/or water during a power outage or what ever.but they won't even get a bite of food or a sip of water from me if life does a 360 on us and life as we once knew it ain't coming back.on account i'll be running out of both if i start doing that.besides.im barley getting by as it is.and if i can prepare for the worse.so can they do so as well..
 
the unprepared and the sheeple will all be dead very quickly in a SHTF event, once the power goes down and the stores are empty, lack of clean drinkable water will kill them a lot quicker than having no food, most wont have any way of filtering dirty water and will drink anything they find if desperate enough, this could be full of chemicals and other contaminants, then there is the disease/hygiene element, I don't think many of them will get far enough to start stealing your stash unless you are unfortunate enough to live in or near a big city.
 
How much water storage is everyone storing on their home base, and do you live in an area that rains often?
We have 650 stored gallons of water (I treated it) with a Big Berkey to purify it for drinking. We get a decent amount of rain. Have our own well.
What about you?
 
How much water storage is everyone storing on their home base, and do you live in an area that rains often?
We have 650 stored gallons of water (I treated it) with a Big Berkey to purify it for drinking. We get a decent amount of rain. Have our own well.
What about you?
Myself i just store water for a few days at home. I'm living near an lake with a few million liters (11.8 Km3) and two rivers without industries, all is around 3 miles away. Guess it would last for another few weeks...
 
Here I have a 30,000 gal swimming pool, but up at my acreage I have two ponds totalling 1.25 acre surface (I control the watershed feeding these ponds). The water system will be solar pumped through a treatment system into a 1500 gallon tank. If I am still alive and kicking by this summer, this system will be in operation.
If the sun shines and it rains I will always have filtered treated water up there
 
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How much water storage is everyone storing on their home base, and do you live in an area that rains often?
We have 650 stored gallons of water (I treated it) with a Big Berkey to purify it for drinking. We get a decent amount of rain. Have our own well.
What about you?

I keep on average 100 litres stored ready ( plus 60 in my van) , but can easily quadruple it in times of concern, We have two Berkfields to filter our rain water catchment and there is an all year round stream only 300 yards from my house. If its not raining here it is about to, or it has just stopped. Also local geology means there is no shortage of ground water even though we live on a hilltop, its only about 3ft down
 
if you've been around the prepper site circuit long enough - you've read plenty enough "true to life" stories of preppers experiencing "SHTF sharing" and the results ....

one I remember explicitly >>> prepper had a winter storm SHTF going - power outage for like 3 days - they had the fireplace going and running the generator to normalize the short SHTF ...

knock on the door - they recognized the guy as a neighbor from down the street - let him in to check out the situation >> guy was just wide eyed and just about babbling - his family was freezing - sitting in the dark the last few days - nothing to eat >>> he wanted the generator - they counter-offered to bring the family over for a warm up & meal and talk about a getting them to a shelter >>> guy went off and it became serious - barely got the crazed guy back out the door .....
 

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