Covid-19 in UK

[Proud Prepper]

The United Kingdom got out of the EU, just in time.

 

[DrHenley]

The United Kingdom got out of the EU, just in time.

Ain't that the truth!

 

[BillMasen]

UK death toll rises to over 1000 now, The Prime minister and three senior government mionisters have been infected with Corona

The Lockdown is getting farsical with some police forces chasing people for travelling to empty rural wilderness areas to exercise alone whilst neighbouring forces are chasing people out of town centers telling them to go and exercise in wilderness areas.

Crime and criminal damage is rising fast and fines for being outdoors without good reason are being issued

Idiots who DELIBERATELY cough on foodstuffs, shop staff, health workers and police saying " they are infected" are being arrested and charged with assault.

Food shortages continue as does panic buying though severe constraints on numbers of customer and social distancing are becoming ever more rigoursly enforced.

An emergency 4000 bed military field hospital is being set up in central London

20,000 UK troops mobilised

Oil prices have collapsed but fuel prices have not fallen.

 

[DrHenley]

Fuel prices here are very low.

 

[BillMasen]

Fuel prices here are very low.

Not here still obscenely high.

 

[bigpaul]

depends on what one drives I suppose, even before the lockdown my 1200cc MPV was only using about £10 worth of fuel a week. and that included travelling up to a 50 mile round trip to access a supermarket, at the moment we are using the local corner shop and using almost no fuel at all.

 

[BillMasen]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...ers-warned-nhs-could-not-cope-pandemic-three/

Exclusive: Ministers were warned that the NHS could not cope with a pandemic three years ago but 'terrifying' results were kept secret

Ministers were informed three years ago that Britain would be quickly overwhelmed by a severe outbreak

 

[bigpaul]

nothing wrong with the NHS in normal circumstances, in the current outbreak its the numbers it cant cope with as well as its own staff going sick. any health care system would be overwhelmed.

 

[GaRp58]

We are also using almost no gas at the moment, we fill the tank with 60 liters and can use it almost 6 weeks. The price here has dropped from € 1.46 down to €1.16. Lowest price I have seen in 6 years. Keep the tanks full anyway, if the price war between Russia and Saudis goes bad, the price will pull up again...GP

 

[DrHenley]

I have filled up once in the last month.

 

[bigpaul]

I ALWAYS top the tank up when it gets down to half- no lower, costs about £20 in normal times about once every two weeks, more in the summer when I (usually) travel further- markets, car boot sales etc.

 

[GaRp58]

I have the 60 lt. tank in the car, 70 in the cellar and whatever I could find underway. I only wanted to make it to my BOL. With the borders closed...forget it now. Just want to disappear into mountains/valleys if the city gets to hard to defend. It would take me about 2 hours to get 1/2 a ton of food into the camper trailer and bug-out. But the comfort of running water, toilet, electricity and such would be missed. Long term camping combined with hunting and security??? Alone??? The wife would not be happy...GP

 

[bigpaul]

i'm bugged in at home, bugged out from my home city 20 years ago now in rural, remote location.

 

[bigpaul]

it is being said, although not officially-yet! that the UK will be in lockdown until June and social distancing will carry on until October.

 

[Petoski]

Looking at comparing the recorded deaths in England and Wales for this corona virus period compared to previous years. I know things hadn't really kicked off virus wise until March but interestingly deaths in February are down on the previous year. Here is a link to the data.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopula...guresondeathsregisteredbyareaofusualresidence

Main points from latest release

• The provisional number of deaths registered in England and Wales in February 2020 was 43,653; this represents a decrease of 13,053 deaths in comparison with the previous month and a decrease of 2,143 deaths in comparison with the same month in 2019.
  
  
• Moveable public holidays and the number of weekends, when register offices are closed, affect the number of registrations made in the published months and in the corresponding months in previous years.
  
  
• Local authorities’ codes and names have been updated to reflect the changes that occurred in April 2019.
  
  
• The decrease in deaths registered in February 2020 is likely to reflect a return to a more usual level of death registrations; this pattern is similar to previous years.

I eagerly await the March data to see if this virus really is just killing off the sick and old.

 

[bigpaul]

no, people aged 30 and 40 are dying from it too.

 

[Petoski]

no, people aged 30 and 40 are dying from it too.

I am not saying this isn't a deadly illness. I am not saying don't isolate, (I'm isolating) I am just questioning wether or not the government measures are proportionate to the problem. I am trying to keep an open mind and use data.

 

[bigpaul]

I have said long before this pandemic struck that the only option in a disease outbreak is self isolation.
cutting off contact with other people is the only way to stop getting it.
15 year old in Portugal has just died of it so its ALL ages.

 

[Danil54grl]

I have the 60 lt. tank in the car, 70 in the cellar and whatever I could find underway. I only wanted to make it to my BOL. With the borders closed...forget it now. Just want to disappear into mountains/valleys if the city gets to hard to defend. It would take me about 2 hours to get 1/2 a ton of food into the camper trailer and bug-out. But the comfort of running water, toilet, electricity and such would be missed. Long term camping combined with hunting and security??? Alone??? The wife would not be happy...GP

Do you have a way to camouflage your camper using hunters netting and cut limbs once you get there? It may not fake out someone who is close by, but maybe but buy you some time from being discovered and you can get the upper hand. Just a thought.

 

[BillMasen]

I am not saying this isn't a deadly illness. I am not saying don't isolate, (I'm isolating) I am just questioning wether or not the government measures are proportionate to the problem. I am trying to keep an open mind and use data.

I see where you are coming from mate , but have you also considered we in the UK have to make extra effort as we are the highest densly populated country in europe, We literally often live on top of each other.