Civil War 2.0

[GaRp58]

And what if one side ignores the rule of law and is completely corrupt? Like we have now...

The problem with "what if" is what if ? Going into a compromise is the first step to giving up on your determination that you are right.....
We say in the Army (and elsewhere) never ASSUME anything. You make an ### out of U and ME. Prep for the worst and hope for the best. GP

 

[Arcticdude]

Where I live every business operates on cash. Not everyone here uses cards, most use only cash. Most people and businesses here have back up generators too. If the power went out for months then of course most people would run of fuel. I think most people here would get by with trading and bartering if there's ever a long term SHTF. There's more horses in this county than people so transportation wouldn't be much of a problem. Far more cattle than people too.

 

[VenomJockey]

I see rioting in LA. I see looting in New Orleans. I could see many little shootouts when someone tries to take some guns off a non-criminal person. BUT, I cannot picture how anyone in his right mind really, really thinks America has enough problems with guns, religion, racism, sexism, anti-gunism and so forth, that an all out civil war would happen. Fights over a parking space, a football game or my dog shitting in your garden, bla bla bal. Civil War? Who are those people trying to get some attention by starting such a ruckus about a fantasy. Too many movies and series about Aliens/Zombies/Hordes/. Relax people......

The problem is that any one of these could "snowball," and all of a sudden you have a national disaster on your hands. Particularly riots...wouldn't take a whole lot for a major riot to go national.

 

[GaRp58]

Damn it VJ, I was hoping for a few likes and the theme would just die...But I am afraid that you stirred up the wasp nest again. Much truths in your statement.
The problem is, animals kill for food or out of self-sustainance, sometimes in self-defense. Only humans are known to kill for fun, boredom or outright ignorance.
Any and every reason is a good enough reason for the dumbest. If the defecatation hits the ventilation, it will because of the few dumbest in the politics (again) and the rest of us will have to bail it out (again) die for them (again) work for the peace (again) and rebuild it all (again). After the French revolution, the Rich and Royal of the European world, realised that it could also happen in England, Germany, Denmark and where-ever there were still kings/queens. So they dug up an old idea from Greece...it
was called democracy, over 2000 years old. Make the people think they have the power by letting them vote for their new king and queen every few years...
They still send our children to war, imput taxes for the stupidest things, live in their palaces and laugh at the riff raff. Used to be called monarchy, now it is
called democracy. Kind of like taking the sugar out of the stuff we eat/drink and putting in ASPARTAMgoogle that). New name, same shit.
I better close now, don't wanna get riled up an get called a ter*****st. LIVE FREE. (the worst prison in the world is in your head) GP

 

[VenomJockey]

Damn it VJ, I was hoping for a few likes and the theme would just die...But I am afraid that you stirred up the wasp nest again. Much truths in your statement.
The problem is, animals kill for food or out of self-sustainance, sometimes in self-defense. Only humans are known to kill for fun, boredom or outright ignorance.
Any and every reason is a good enough reason for the dumbest. If the defecatation hits the ventilation, it will because of the few dumbest in the politics (again) and the rest of us will have to bail it out (again) die for them (again) work for the peace (again) and rebuild it all (again). After the French revolution, the Rich and Royal of the European world, realised that it could also happen in England, Germany, Denmark and where-ever there were still kings/queens. So they dug up an old idea from Greece...it
was called democracy, over 2000 years old. Make the people think they have the power by letting them vote for their new king and queen every few years...
They still send our children to war, imput taxes for the stupidest things, live in their palaces and laugh at the riff raff. Used to be called monarchy, now it is
called democracy. Kind of like taking the sugar out of the stuff we eat/drink and putting in ASPARTAMgoogle that). New name, same shit.
I better close now, don't wanna get riled up an get called a ter*****st. LIVE FREE. (the worst prison in the world is in your head) GP

Sorry about that! Realistically thinking, what do you think would happen if, say, a major riot in , say, LA spilled over into WHITE neighborhoods, and the Blacks just decided, "Hey, why not?" Then the idea is picked up in Chicago, N.Y., Philly, Baltimore, Miami, Atlanta, etc., etc. Where do you think that would end up? Or let the power go out over, say, a third of the country, and it happens to be a third that has ultra-high welfare/food stamp enrollment....like the Northeastern U.S.? And the power stays off for a couple months...no welfare checks, no food stamps, etc. That would result in nationwide "protests/demonstrations," and it's all downhill from there. Never mind all the OTHER bubbles that could burst at any time.

 

[GaRp58]

Well, you're damn right again, VJ. If the power goes out, it will only take a few days of no A/C and cold beer to start the riots. In winter they would probably a have sex to stay warm or just freeze to death...who controls the food or power or water or guns or, or, or, whatever: controls the masses. Scary huh? GP

 

[bigpaul]

nice cold winter and no electric and most of the masses will be dead.

 

[GaRp58]

scary thoughts gentlemen, but the truth is usually scary. I have 14 different means to cook in my pantry, not to mention the wood fire method. All of them give me a
method to produce heat. Live near the woods. Got solar, with an Infrared heating panel of 800 Watts. Two wood fire stoves to cook and bake. My house has 18 inch
thick walls made of cob, warm in winter and cool in summer. The west side is 75 feet long with 72 window panes to let the sun in. I use the compost to heat the garage and the swimming pool. (running water through the compost to get it warm). 60 ft deep well and 3600 square feet of garden. Have enough room for the kids/grandkids, but that is where it stops. I could support the whole family but not the neighbors or strangers. Unless they were willing to the the hardest work in the garden?? Live free, GP

 

[KateMTx]

scary thoughts gentlemen, but the truth is usually scary. I have 14 different means to cook in my pantry, not to mention the wood fire method. All of them give me a
method to produce heat. Live near the woods. Got solar, with an Infrared heating panel of 800 Watts. Two wood fire stoves to cook and bake. My house has 18 inch
thick walls made of cob, warm in winter and cool in summer. The west side is 75 feet long with 72 window panes to let the sun in. I use the compost to heat the garage and the swimming pool. (running water through the compost to get it warm). 60 ft deep well and 3600 square feet of garden. Have enough room for the kids/grandkids, but that is where it stops. I could support the whole family but not the neighbors or strangers. Unless they were willing to the the hardest work in the garden?? Live free, GP

That sounds like an awesome house

 

[GaRp58]

That sounds like an awesome house

Thanx, it is my pride and joy. With a chicken coop, pig pen, wine grapes and wine cellar. Since 2017, the laws have been changed to get the bad quality of moonshine
off the market. Now, everybody! may make their own moonshine, up to 50 liters can be on hand at one time for own use. Over the level is really expensive fines. I am waiting for a judgement from the courts here against the Workers Union. After an on-the-job accident, I might be able to go into early retirement and leave Germany...GP

 

[KateMTx]

Thanx, it is my pride and joy. With a chicken coop, pig pen, wine grapes and wine cellar. Since 2017, the laws have been changed to get the bad quality of moonshine
off the market. Now, everybody! may make their own moonshine, up to 50 liters can be on hand at one time for own use. Over the level is really expensive fines. I am waiting for a judgement from the courts here against the Workers Union. After an on-the-job accident, I might be able to go into early retirement and leave Germany...GP

But then you'd have to leave your house to people who might not appreciate its awesome-ness. The moonshine making sounds pretty great though. As long as you drink it regularly enough you won't have worry about going over the limit, right?

 

[GaRp58]

Sorry if I didn't explain right.... I am living in Germany and want to retire to my HOUSE in Hungary! I only have a condo in Germany with a well stocked cellar. This dream house is where I want to retire to. Thanks for worrying for me KMTx. GP

 

[Silent Earth]

Sorry if I didn't explain right.... I am living in Germany and want to retire to my HOUSE in Hungary! I only have a condo in Germany with a well stocked cellar. This dream house is where I want to retire to. Thanks for worrying for me KMTx. GP

Lucky sod, there is quite a few Brits who also have homes in places like Hungary and Bohemia enjoying off gridding homesteading life styles.

 

[GaRp58]

But then you'd have to leave your house to people who might not appreciate its awesome-ness. The moonshine making sounds pretty great though. As long as you drink it regularly enough you won't have worry about going over the limit, right?

I can't even drink 50 liters a year...but the idea is nice to think about, besides, you can barter with that which you don't/can't drink. GP

 

[GaRp58]

Lucky sod, there is quite a few Brits who also have homes in places like Hungary and Bohemia enjoying off gridding homesteading life styles.

Yes, there is a Brit not far from me, name is Neal, bought a house about 8 km away and rebuilt it like I did. He is about 300 meters from the Danube. We get along well when I go back to work on the house, seems we both have problems with the Jehovahs Witnesses...GP

 

[bigpaul]

we both have problems with the Jehovahs Witnesses...GP

don't we all??

 

[GaRp58]

did i touch a nerve

 

[bigpaul]

nope, haven't seen them for awhile but at one time it was regular as clockwork and you can spot them a mile off.

 

[VenomJockey]

Yes, there is a Brit not far from me, name is Neal, bought a house about 8 km away and rebuilt it like I did. He is about 300 meters from the Danube. We get along well when I go back to work on the house, .seems we both have problems with the Jehovahs Witnesses GP..

EVERYBODY has problems with the J.W.'s....gotta be the most obnoxious people on earth.

 

[GaRp58]

The last time they showed up, they got my 14 yr old daughter crying. The wife told me about it when I got home that nite. IT JUST SO HAPPENED, I came home the next day on the Harley, wearing my colors from the Gypsys and the worm and woman were walking away from my yard....
I honked to get their attention, as the worm turned around, I stopped with my front wheel between his legs and the headlight 3 inches from his poor family jewels. Asking nicely if they had any memory of where Jesus had mentioned that "if anyone does anything to one of these children, it would be better that a millstone was hung around his neck and he was dropped to the bottom of the ocean" end of quote. Kinda looking into his eyes, I think he got the idea. After I said that if he or anybody else EVER comes to my house and makes anybody in my family cry again, I was gonna make Jesus' words come true. Looking into his eyes, I then knew he got the idea, kinda personally...
Funny, never saw them again...Live free. GP