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Ring of fire a little active, I've much more activity in the past.

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All right guys, I've been good about not bringing God into this discussion. But if you insist on bringing in another religion, I'll need to do some preaching!

Just to clarify various forms of 'religions':
* Mother Earth/Mother Nature
* Evolution
* Big Bang
* Global Warming/Climate Change

Note one definition of 'religion' from dictionary.com : something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience:to make a religion of fighting prejudice.


BUT, you guys are all way off base! It's not global warmed-over lies, nor frick-fracking. Keep up! It's TRUMP's FAULT, and it's RUSSIAN COLLUSION!
That way CNN can keep barking about the Russians AND cover these disasters... (oh, pardon, forgot to turn on SARCASM) And as a bonus, they can harp on the attack over Obamascare and how it'll affect care for the victims (I'm surprised I haven't heard this yet, but just wait).

Here's how it works: Mexicans come into the US illegally, sucking off every form of welfare. Their family are back in Mexico City, so the Obamacare that libs want to cover illegals here will extend to their family outside the country. Make sense? As much sense as anything else these libs support...
 
TF, much of the discussion here is in humor and eluding to the fact that libs tie everything to global warming. Does global warming have anything to do with earthquakes of course not. These earthquakes have been going on before the splitting of continents. The EQs haven't increased nor reduced over time unless one believes the pseudoscience bull shit, thanks to the internet we are seeing what the scientist have already known, thanks to the speed of information we can hear and see 3 big earthquakes at the same time. The only thing that has changed regarding EQs is the speed at which the news reaches us laymen feeding false impressions, that's how ignorant much of the world are these days, kindly the same group that once believed the world was flat. Unfortunately as with our ancestors man today are feeding fear over known facts in other words fear out paces facts, kindly like burning at the stake over heresy and witchcraft. We are now seeing in some countries including Canada where they are investigating climate deniers, reminds me of the heresy trials, man made climate change has become a religion in it's own right publicly ridiculing those that don't believe and now investigating with politicians calling for prison sentences even in the US!

In Italy the Government sent 7 geologists to prison for manslaughter for not predicting the earthquake in 2009 that killed over 300 people (over turned in 2012) Are climatologist next?
 
pls do tell what other religion??

Just to clarify various forms of 'religions':
* Mother Earth/Mother Nature
I gave your answer before you asked... quoting 'mother nature', 'mother earth', same thing. It's a religion. I know it was said in jest, and my response was in jest as well. I was just pointing it out. I know you believe in evolution, and you know I don't. And we both know each of us aren't changing our minds...

Maverick, double bonus point to you for hitting on a GREAT topic! I think anyone doing their job, better or worse, isn't doing a crime. But a climatologist who knowingly fakes data to get more grant money or strong-arm others (including the gov't) into doing this is very guilty of crimes. IMHO, I think the majority of climatologists are guilty of this and should have the book thrown at them for their crimes. Burning at the stake isn't too harsh a crime when you consider the $billions wasted on this lie.

I think man-made global warming/climate change is a bad joke at best.
 
with that mindset we ain't far from the inquisition,tho book burnings of the third reich or stalins clensings...oh we have come so far from those days...sigh
 
with that mindset we ain't far from the inquisition,tho book burnings of the third reich or stalins clensings...oh we have come so far from those days...sigh

Jontte,

Were you referring to my comments about the climatologists? Note my comment there was based on the amount of damage their lies have caused. Trillions of dollars have been wasted on 'climate change'. Companies destroyed. People destroyed. Markets overwhelmed.

Think that's a stretch? There are zero lead mines in the USA any more. The largest coal company filed bankruptcy under Obama. Coal miners in part are why Hillary lost the election. Oil exploration has been severely restricted over this lie. Tax dollar (aka what was stolen from my wallet) wasted by the $billions. It would not be a stretch to call this the most expensive fraud in history.

So yes, the criminals who caused this deserve to be killed. And some politicians who knowingly pushed this should be buried in the same hole. There are no innocents in this list.
 
we shall see..
so instead Sir, just blowing hot air,do lock and load and take aim?

when I was worried about my big neighbor in the east,I took my self and "re-enlisted" and are now active,traing on regular intervalls and understand
that if I'm called it may end my life.
so yes,I can express my opinions.

do I belive everything those guys say,prolly not,but something has happened and we humans have a part in it.
 
we shall see..
so instead Sir, just blowing hot air,do lock and load and take aim?

when I was worried about my big neighbor in the east,I took my self and "re-enlisted" and are now active,traing on regular intervalls and understand
that if I'm called it may end my life.
so yes,I can express my opinions.

do I belive everything those guys say,prolly not,but something has happened and we humans have a part in it.
I believe the only part we humans have in climate change is as a witness to something that has been going on since the beginning of time. "Human caused" climate change is nothing but a scam on the gullible to milk "rich" nation's, namely the US, of trillions of taxpayers dollars to the UN.
 
I believe the only part we humans have in climate change is as a witness to something that has been going on since the beginning of time. "Human caused" climate change is nothing but a scam on the gullible to milk "rich" nation's, namely the US, of trillions of taxpayers dollars to the UN.
I can't disagree enough. There are too many people on this planet for it to support us all. Between clearing land, wiping out animal species, polluting air and water, we are having an impact on the earths ability to clean itself up. I kind of think that mankind is a cancer on the planet. Sad, but a good analogy. The good news, after we are gone because we were too greedy to change our ways, in a million years or so the planet will clean itself up and erase all traces of our impact.
 
I can't disagree enough. There are too many people on this planet for it to support us all. Between clearing land, wiping out animal species, polluting air and water, we are having an impact on the earths ability to clean itself up. I kind of think that mankind is a cancer on the planet. Sad, but a good analogy. The good news, after we are gone because we were too greedy to change our ways, in a million years or so the planet will clean itself up and erase all traces of our impact.
I've heard other people talk that way too. But I have yet to see anyone do anything about it. They all still drive vehicles that use the hated "fossil" fuels, live in homes that take "precious" or "limited" resources to build, use electric that is produced by the dreaded coal or natural gas or nuclear and buy most everything that's made from plastic, which comes from that horrible product called oil. And the most baffling thing is nobody who seriously feels this way is getting in line to leave and rid the planet of the evil "mankind". I do agree with you that there are too many people on the planet. You can thank modern medicine and modern farming practices for that.
 
I believe the only part we humans have in climate change is as a witness to something that has been going on since the beginning of time. "Human caused" climate change is nothing but a scam on the gullible to milk "rich" nation's, namely the US, of trillions of taxpayers dollars to the UN.

Yup. Steal money and control people.

I can't disagree enough. There are too many people on this planet for it to support us all. Between clearing land, wiping out animal species, polluting air and water, we are having an impact on the earths ability to clean itself up. I kind of think that mankind is a cancer on the planet. Sad, but a good analogy. The good news, after we are gone because we were too greedy to change our ways, in a million years or so the planet will clean itself up and erase all traces of our impact.

Brent, that sounds good when you wave your hand and don't actually get specific. And there is the little things called history and facts. There is zero correlation between man's increase and global temperatures. There is 10 million times more correlation between solar cycles and global temperatures. In fact there is far more correlation with global temperatures and volcanoes. And there is zero correlation between these "scientist's" (aka scammers) predicted temperatures and actual temperatures. Remember Al Gore's hockey stick nearly 20 years ago? He showed that hurricanes and horrible weather would become dominant after Katrina/Rita. Yet we had a decade+ of hurricane-less seasons. We had decreasing temperatures. By now he said the world would not be survivable. And yet here we are. And it was not just wacky Al Gore. Every climatologist was standing behind him in agreement. So how can you believe anything they say?

Yes, people are clearing land and planting crops. How does that really matter? We cut down one green plant and replace it with another green plant. And yes, some blind salamanders are dying off. So what? There is as much a chance of it being the source of the cure for cancer as it is of being the source of a widespread deadly disease. In hindsight, if certain breeds of monkeys had gone extinct a few decades ago, AIDS would never have spread. I'm not anti-monkey, but that's a fair tradeoff given the # of people that have died and currently are suffering. (hey, a Christian guy just made a stand for gays!) Millions of people have had or currently have AIDS. Definitely worth killing some monkeys.

BTW, with what we're learning about DNA & embryos, it will not be very long before long-extinct animals are revived. Jurassic Park coming your way within 20-50 years!

Oh, and lots of animals went extinct long before man wiped them out. Nearly every dinosaur. Tons of mammals, insects, amphibians, birds, etc. Man's impact is a drop in the bucket, just like for global warming.
 
I've heard other people talk that way too. But I have yet to see anyone do anything about it. They all still drive vehicles that use the hated "fossil" fuels, live in homes that take "precious" or "limited" resources to build, use electric that is produced by the dreaded coal or natural gas or nuclear and buy most everything that's made from plastic, which comes from that horrible product called oil. And the most baffling thing is nobody who seriously feels this way is getting in line to leave and rid the planet of the evil "mankind". I do agree with you that there are too many people on the planet. You can thank modern medicine and modern farming practices for that.
I can agree that this is not an easy problem to fix. No one wants to go back into the Stone Age, or even the pre industrialized age. I don't think we need to ban cars and trucks tomorrow by any means. I do think we need to start phasing them out though. If we don't really start pushing for better electric cars then they will not be made. Things like coal power plants should be changed to cleaner options. There are clean options, geothermal, hydro, solar wind, etc. true, none of these options are perfect, nor developed to a better efficiency, but without making companies switch to them that efficiency would never be developed. Oil has been abundant and cheap for a very long time. That alone has stopped the R&D required to make cleaner options viable. We know that what we are currently doing is polluting and changing the world we live on. Not trying to move forward and find better options that are cleaner is kind of dumb.
 
I've heard other people talk that way too. But I have yet to see anyone do anything about it. They all still drive vehicles that use the hated "fossil" fuels, live in homes that take "precious" or "limited" resources to build, use electric that is produced by the dreaded coal or natural gas or nuclear and buy most everything that's made from plastic, which comes from that horrible product called oil. And the most baffling thing is nobody who seriously feels this way is getting in line to leave and rid the planet of the evil "mankind". I do agree with you that there are too many people on the planet. You can thank modern medicine and modern farming practices for that.
As far as the overpopulation goes, I think China was on the right track with the one child policy. The US bashed them for years saying it's immoral to dictate something like that. I personally think it's a hell of a lot immoral for the millions of people around the world that are starving to death. Forced sterilization after one child would make for a lot less suffering.
 

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