Anybody ever have a grizzly encounter?

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Maverick said:
From a recording of the brown bear attack of Timothy Treadwell and Amie Huguenard related from Alaska Department of Fish and Game biologist Larry Van Daele

"The bear attacks (Treadwell), and he calls for help. Ms. Huguenard opens the tent fly and is very upset. At her urging, he 'plays dead.' It sounds like the bear then retreated for a couple minutes but returned. It again went after him, and he begged her to hit it with something. She in turn screamed for him to fight. The audio ends with his sounds no longer evident and her screams continuing.

"That evening, probably Sunday night, (the male) was walking along a major bear trail and walked by the tent. When he encountered Mr. Treadwell, the bear reacted and either bit him and/or hit him. When he 'played dead,' the bear left, but as is often the case, when Mr. Treadwell started moving again, and/or Ms. Huguenard came to his aid, the bear returned.

"At this time, for some reason, the bear killed and ate him. I suspect that Ms. Huguenard's screams, which sound eerily like a predator call, may have prompted the bear to return and kill her. He then cached her body to be eaten later.''
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I saw a documentary on this a while back. Pretty much tells me grizzleys are not to be trusted. I feel the same way about grizzleys as I do Atlanta. If you're going anywhere near a predator, be well armed for protection....
 
I'll be damed if I'll lay there while a bear is nawing on me. That's why I'll never go in bear country without a gun. Some good bear gun choices are Marlin 45-70 or 450, 12 gauge alternateing with slugs and 00 buck and my personal favorite is a S&W .500 mag. On our ranch we have both black and grizzlies.
 
Brent S said:
I saw a documentary on this a while back. Pretty much tells me grizzleys are not to be trusted. I feel the same way about grizzleys as I do Atlanta. If you're going anywhere near a predator, be well armed for protection....
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And polar bears are much worse than grizzlies. They don't hibernate and they will actively hunt a man.
 
Arcticdude said:
And polar bears are much worse than grizzlies. They don't hibernate and they will actively hunt a man.
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I saw a show where a zoo was raising two polar bear cubs. Cute, cuddly, and all the staff loved playing with them. Until one day, when they were just around 100lbs. One of them cornered a worker in the corner of the room, it didn't actually hurt her, but stood over her growling and letting them all know it's true nature. They are mostly solitary predators, and see everything as a threat or possible food source. I don't think they are evil or anything like that. I just think they adapted to behavour that let them survive in the harsh area that they live in. One thing that was impressive was a picture I saw where a wild female polar bear was playing with some sled dogs. She was truly enjoying them, without gravy.... I guess her motherly instincts were kicking in.
 
I don't remember Kodiaks hibernating....at least, I remember seeing them pretty much during any season. Then again, was many years ago.
 
Gazrok said:
I don't remember Kodiaks hibernating....at least, I remember seeing them pretty much during any season. Then again, was many years ago.
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You're right along the more moderate coastal areas where food is abundant. It's also true that no bears truly hibernate, but they all slow down and sleep during the winter, except polar bears. They go in to something called a torpor. It's just easier to say they hibernate.
 
Kodiak is a lot of coast, lol...

Just looked at it on the map again, and man, I don't remember it as that large, but then, I guess not much of it was really civilized when I was there (or even now). Mostly wilderness.
 
Gazrok said:
For most bears, but not those in the grizzly family (or at least it MIGHT work, but it isn't 100%)...

When I lived in Alaska (Kodiak island to be exact), certainly had more than my share of bear encounters...and I was just a kid. Man, we were dumb. It's amazing we're still alive.

Once, we played with some cubs. We heard momma, but we got out of there before we actually saw her. (guessing she smelled us).

Another time, we were picking salmonberries on a hillside, when one came to the top of the hill (dad was running down the hill carrying his rifle). It actually reared up, but the hill was too steep for it to come down, giving us time to get in the car.

Then, my brother and his friends got cornered on the side of a rocky cliff. I actually had to run back home and get my shotgun (they were stuck there for about an hour or so...one determined bear). Just to scare it off. Luckily, where the bear was, and my brother was, there was no way for the bear to reach them, or me down on the ground. (it was a good 50 feet drop or more).

Only other time, we were fishing, and saw two bears further down the creek. We had plenty of time to just leave before they got interested in us. Luckily, the salmon were running, so I'm not even sure they saw us.

Bottom line, best bear defense....get somewhere the bear isn't, or cannot go.....
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There is really no place that that you can go that a bear can't. If you can climb it, chances are fairly high that the bear can also.

I'd say your dad was lucky. Bears can run down hills just fine, and running justs spurs the predatory instinct.

To answer the first question; yes. I consider my time outdoors richer for the possibility of having encounters with all kinds of wildlife.
 
jontte said:
very lucky indeed not to have one,even happier those critters don't live here,only our local brown bears and they tend to avoid humans..
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Brown bears are grizzly. Genetically the same animal, but the coastal version of the grizzly is bigger.
 
DrHenley said:
Not a lot of fun...
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It's a shame that Hollywood took an incredible story like Jim Glass's and turned it into a factually deficient piece of crap movie.

Of course I'm sure that having input from the guy who thinks that a Chinook is "global warming" probably didn't help.
 
Arcticdude said:
You're right along the more moderate coastal areas where food is abundant. It's also true that no bears truly hibernate, but they all slow down and sleep during the winter, except polar bears. They go in to something called a torpor. It's just easier to say they hibernate.
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Really applies only to female polar bears having cubs from what I understand.
 
jontte said:
very lucky indeed not to have one,even happier those critters don't live here,only our local brown bears and they tend to avoid humans..
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Most bears avoid humans. A guy I know, figures that grizzly avoid humans more than black bears do.

I'm not sure, I can't really refute or endorse it, but I've been made more nervous by a large black bear than grizzly.
 
Arcticdude said:
I'll be damed if I'll lay there while a bear is nawing on me. That's why I'll never go in bear country without a gun. Some good bear gun choices are Marlin 45-70 or 450, 12 gauge alternateing with slugs and 00 buck and my personal favorite is a S&W .500 mag. On our ranch we have both black and grizzlies.
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My 45-70 is comforting, as is a number of of big game guns.

I like a warmed up .45 Colt with heavy bullets, too. Always wanted a .480 Ruger.

I think I would pass on the shotgun, even though I usually travel with one. Unless I was using a good solid slug or something like a Brenneke. Most slugs are very poor penetrators. And I don't know if I would want to trust buckshot on a big grizzly, either.
 
Tactical Lever said:
There is really no place that that you can go that a bear can't. If you can climb it, chances are fairly high that the bear can also.

I'd say your dad was lucky. Bears can run down hills just fine, and running justs spurs the predatory instinct.

To answer the first question; yes. I consider my time outdoors richer for the possibility of having encounters with all kinds of wildlife.
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Grizzlies can't climb trees, but they have a hell of a reach.
 
Arcticdude said:
Grizzlies can't climb trees, but they have a hell of a reach.
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I was going to reference a grizzly's straighter claws, but if a person can grab branches on a big tree, then a grizzly would go up like a ladder.

And a small tree that a person could wrap hands around likely wouldn't be of much safety.

And I'm not sure that I would trust that they don't have a limited ability to climb.
 
Maverick said:
You have it backwards ;) the grizzly are a brown bear as are the kodiaks though not all brown bears are grizzlies same be true of the kodiak, both the grizzly and kodiak are subs of the brown bear ;)
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I'll take your word for it, although I don't think I completely follow.

Sometimes we get pretty caught up in different titles for the same animal.
 
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