Billy Roper
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And they don't even have a clue about the difference between what America stands for, and what it was founded and intended to be.
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Billy Roper
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Whether you agree with me, that Hillary's likely moves on gun control and hate speech laws and amnesty for illegals will speed up the balkanization of America, or with the African-American congressman from Mississippi who just stated that he fears a race war if Trump is elected, I wrote a short speculative fiction article about what the effect of a Hillary Presidency might be that some of you might find interesting: http://divine-truth.org/2016/10/23/the-effect-of-a-hillary-presidency/
LushusLucius
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If there is a race war, it won't be much of a war. More like a one way blood bath. Blacks aren't trained nor armed for such a "race war". Whites will want nothing to do with it, but will steamroll them out of defense with their high powered weapons and precision training. The kids can join to. I see Youtube videos of little girls putting rounds on target 99% of the time. If a race war breaks out, participating blacks would likely not last, even most of the ones who said they want it would actually follow through with it.
Silent Earth
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Have you seen the consist of the average American regiment, battalion, field force etc most of the grunts are black
LushusLucius
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"Black soldiers are trained therefore they have a chance in a race war."
False equivalence.
Chances are black soldiers sworn to protect their country arent going to participate in a race war. The thugs and gangster types who like to riot and burn their towns to the grown over a police transgression are.
Silent Earth
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If thats what you believe then good luck.
LushusLucius
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Good luck with what? These ARE the people calling for a race war. They are the ONLY ones calling for a race war and the only ones who actually want it besides your generic skinhead and Nazi, but that's nothing new. The mislead cop hating, Black Lives Matter terrorists are the ones perpetrating these hate crimes. No one else.
jontte
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Dudes and Dudettes,last time you had a civil war over there it did cost you 750 000 dead and that's a lot of dead people,not counting all those killed after the civil war.
if this civil war/race war happened now,with modern weapons,it would also be fought in urban areas,the worst possible place to fight in so the expected body count is going to be very high,are you willing to pay the price in that??
that type of battle/fight is the last no one wants.
in a scenario like this can you trust that the soldier stays with the unit or do they leave to defend ma and pa?
if this civil war/race war happened now,with modern weapons,it would also be fought in urban areas,the worst possible place to fight in so the expected body count is going to be very high,are you willing to pay the price in that??
that type of battle/fight is the last no one wants.
in a scenario like this can you trust that the soldier stays with the unit or do they leave to defend ma and pa?
LushusLucius
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Do you really think it will be an all out, organized war? No. It's going to be a bunch of hit and runs by the thugs calling for it and its going to be organized riots with blacks dragging whites into the streets and beating them. This wouldnt be the first "race war". Living in Arizona and living alongside low income Mexicans, these people hated blacks. They live in segregated neighborhoods and get into bloody fights. If they appear at the same event, they fight each other en masse. If a black man wrongs a Mexican person, they all get together and shoot up each others homes. This is how race wars work, traditionally. Its unlikely that there will be organization and soldiers. Just a lot of bloody fighting and seething hatred. The demographics of blacks potentially to participate in such a war do not have the money to get ahold of weapons, let alone the ability to band together and organize.
Rob Painless
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I hope you're right about that! Hard to tell which way the stick's gonna float....until it happens.
Rob Painless
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duplicate post...deleted .... well...actually, backspaced out of existence....but, kinda the same thing
Silent Earth
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I think as is to often the case among my American friends you can only see black and white ( no pun intended) EG Race War / No Race War, or a full on conflict versus a few criminals stirring trouble. I dont mean to sound offensive but there are none so blind as those who will not see.
Consider what IS actually happening in the US and UK for that matter, The black community feels aggrieved and unfairly treated, dissent IS growing, riots occur frequently for the most inane of reasons, fundamentalism IS growing be it Black power, Communist or Islamic.
Communities are gradually segregating based upon skin colour and religion and or more extreme political belief. We in the UK had a long conflict with the IRA which lasted in its latest version from 1968 to 1996 with thousands being shot, blown up, maimed etc shopping centers, schools, government buildings, public gatherings, crowded bars even the government being bombed in Brighton. British army strength at that time was 200,000, the IRA a few hundred at best YET the war dragged on for decades.
Have you forgotten the 1770s when a rag tag bunch of colonial tea abusers resisted, then fought and finally defeated the greatest empire on earth?
In the US the growing disaffected black community WILL continue with its pointless criminality by rioting and looting and shooting cops, MOST blacks will not BUT their anger is simmering away, getting deeper and more vicious and they are looking for a way to fight back. Into the cooking pot comes the Islamic fundamentalists and Communists who offer the disaffected black community brotherhood, hope, a cause,and a fure filled with promise, often finding willing converts in the US prison system. More young blacks than ever are converting to Islam.
The black community can associate Islam (or communism)with their own cause, The black homeland becomes the black Islamic homeland something for them to unite in seeking to achieve. So what follows next is normal doctrine for Religious and Political ideologies since time began. RECRUIT willing desperate people , seek funds from sympathetic states (The middle east) start campaigning politically first peacefully, then via growing violent protests UNTIL the government clamps down hard on them. This gives the leadership the excuse and reason to tell their followers " look how the US government oppresses us and denies us our homeland".
The IRA numbered a few hundred front line activists ( terrorists / freedom fighters? ) over 30 years just imagine what many THOUSANDS of well funded and well trained black extremists could do inside the US even if their numbers by percentage are tiny compared with the community at large. A long term black Islamic or communist OR BOTH insurgency that follows the shoot and scoot policy YOU lot used in the 1770s, the IRA used, The French Marquis used, the Vietcong used etc etc.
They do not need a full on race war, they only need to create FEAR. a fear that is not stopped by having the biggest army because the enemy does not stand and fight, a FEAR that is not stopped by the millions of US gun owners because they dont get involved in shoot outs, they just blast off a magazine or two then withdraw. Fear caused by your local Walmart blowing up, the Uptown bus blowing up, the gas tanker blowing up, the pipe bomb in the play ground, a bomb at the multi plex. Each attack followed by a demand. Each group of extremists having no contact with the next, all operating independently after being trained by a small cadre of instructors JUST LIKE YOUR RANGERS DID IN NAM.
You are very likely to get a race war, but its not going to be the type of war YOU want to fight Man o Man.
Consider what IS actually happening in the US and UK for that matter, The black community feels aggrieved and unfairly treated, dissent IS growing, riots occur frequently for the most inane of reasons, fundamentalism IS growing be it Black power, Communist or Islamic.
Communities are gradually segregating based upon skin colour and religion and or more extreme political belief. We in the UK had a long conflict with the IRA which lasted in its latest version from 1968 to 1996 with thousands being shot, blown up, maimed etc shopping centers, schools, government buildings, public gatherings, crowded bars even the government being bombed in Brighton. British army strength at that time was 200,000, the IRA a few hundred at best YET the war dragged on for decades.
Have you forgotten the 1770s when a rag tag bunch of colonial tea abusers resisted, then fought and finally defeated the greatest empire on earth?
In the US the growing disaffected black community WILL continue with its pointless criminality by rioting and looting and shooting cops, MOST blacks will not BUT their anger is simmering away, getting deeper and more vicious and they are looking for a way to fight back. Into the cooking pot comes the Islamic fundamentalists and Communists who offer the disaffected black community brotherhood, hope, a cause,and a fure filled with promise, often finding willing converts in the US prison system. More young blacks than ever are converting to Islam.
The black community can associate Islam (or communism)with their own cause, The black homeland becomes the black Islamic homeland something for them to unite in seeking to achieve. So what follows next is normal doctrine for Religious and Political ideologies since time began. RECRUIT willing desperate people , seek funds from sympathetic states (The middle east) start campaigning politically first peacefully, then via growing violent protests UNTIL the government clamps down hard on them. This gives the leadership the excuse and reason to tell their followers " look how the US government oppresses us and denies us our homeland".
The IRA numbered a few hundred front line activists ( terrorists / freedom fighters? ) over 30 years just imagine what many THOUSANDS of well funded and well trained black extremists could do inside the US even if their numbers by percentage are tiny compared with the community at large. A long term black Islamic or communist OR BOTH insurgency that follows the shoot and scoot policy YOU lot used in the 1770s, the IRA used, The French Marquis used, the Vietcong used etc etc.
They do not need a full on race war, they only need to create FEAR. a fear that is not stopped by having the biggest army because the enemy does not stand and fight, a FEAR that is not stopped by the millions of US gun owners because they dont get involved in shoot outs, they just blast off a magazine or two then withdraw. Fear caused by your local Walmart blowing up, the Uptown bus blowing up, the gas tanker blowing up, the pipe bomb in the play ground, a bomb at the multi plex. Each attack followed by a demand. Each group of extremists having no contact with the next, all operating independently after being trained by a small cadre of instructors JUST LIKE YOUR RANGERS DID IN NAM.
You are very likely to get a race war, but its not going to be the type of war YOU want to fight Man o Man.
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Billy Roper
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Only half tongue in cheek, after the black Congressman from Mississippi gve his public speech and sent an official notice to the Department of Homeland Security to prepare for a race war if Trump loses last week, I began to put together this top ten list of things to do, largely from a prepping standpoint, while we wait for the inauguration apocalypse: http://divine-truth.org/2016/10/26/...ile-you-wait-for-the-inauguration-apocalypse/
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In Central/South America and Africa when I was in it was all asymmetric. Atrocities is common practice on both sides, in war non combatant deaths are deemed collateral damage, in asymmetric non combatants are called targets. A civil war in this Country would be asymmetric but only one side is going to have the sledge hammer!
Silent Earth
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Sledge hammers are only useful when you have something to hit.
Silent Earth
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Sledge hammers are only useful when you have something to hit.
Arcticdude
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It'd be a short "war" here. We have 1 maybe 2 blacks in my county and they work for a living. We do have a few indians (not the red dot kind) and a couple of Mex's. Not much to worry about here. But the cities are another matter. I think the spoiled baby's will continue to riot, burn and loot whenever they don't get their way.
Billy Roper
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New 5 star review up of "The Balk", book about coming breakup and collapse of the United States. https://www.amazon.com/Balk-What-do...515371816/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8
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