Long(er) term coffee solution

Rellgar said:

Your assumption of what I was assuming is wrong again. Your thinking is a bit different from most others BigPaul, lol but that's what makes you unique.

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not quite unique my friend, rare maybe, I could name maybe 2 or 3 Brits who think like I do but its not many.

Bigpaul, if you read what I said in the OP, I said that it was something I "really don't want to give up."

Why not just leave it at that instead of making into some sort of horrible addiction, which it's not. Yes I could live without it. I just prefer not to. Why can't you understand that?

Is there nothing that you would prefer not to do without? Does that make it an addiction?

DrHenley said:

Bigpaul, if you read what I said in the OP, I said that it was something I "really don't want to give up."

Why not just leave it at that instead of making into some sort of horrible addiction, which it's not. Yes I could live without it. I just prefer not to. Why can't you understand that?

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you may be able to live without it, but to many people caffeine is an addiction just as bad as any drug and it only takes 1 cup per day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine_dependence
if there is something I cant make, cant grow, and cant forage it post collapse., then I will live without it.
coffee is very low on my list of priorities.

There are zero harmful physical, psychological or social effects caused by me drinking one cup of coffee in the morning. And I have no withdrawal symptoms if I don't drink it, other than being a little grouchy at missing the pleasure.

And I daresay I've never know anyone who had harmful physical, psychological or social effects from drinking coffee.

I put the link, read it or ignore it, its up to you, I don't much care which.

bigpaul said:

I put the link, read it or ignore it, its up to you, I don't much care which.

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I read it, did you?

DEPENDENCE:
"people who take in a minimum of 100mg of caffeine-the amount in about one cup-can acquire a physical dependence" unquote.

"Caffeine addiction, or a pathological and compulsive form of use, has not been documented in humans."

Give it up bigpaul, you undercut your own "caffeine is an addiction" argument with that link, and I'm not going to let you move the goalposts by changing the word "addiction" to "dependence."

I certainly believe excessive caffeine use can cause a mild physical dependence, my wife has a physical dependence. It's not an addiction.

wait until the coffee supplies run out then we'll see if its an addiction or not, its certainly an obsession.

Stop drinking coffee for 2 weeks and then try to keep a straight face when you drink the first cup again. After your body has cleaned out the last of the coffein, it will react violently to the poisoning. Only 65 mg of coffein per kilo of bodyweight is LETHAL DOSE... Twice as deadly as ASPIRIN. Not addictive, just poisonous. Makes a very nervous stomach for those who have eating problems and heartburn. Have fun, drink till its gone, then enjoy the clean kidneys, liver, blood, clear head and deep sleep.
Live free, GP

Mayo Clinic says:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-...expert-answers/coffee-and-health/faq-20058339

wait a moment guys, I'll have to get the pop corns and watch this again....

no,we don't think all the same,act same and so on,if we did,it would be boooooooring as hell.

jontte said:

no,we don't think all the same,act same and so on,if we did,it would be boooooooring as hell.

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if everybody thought the same it would be a boring old world.

Coffee does not really concern me that much, unless you fill it up with Sugar and it is more sugar water than coffee.

What does concern me is when people get addicted to soft drinks (POP, SODA or whatever it is called in your area). In many cases they contain more caffeine than coffee and with all the sugar, it is dangerous. Even worse, is the soft drinks that are called "diet" with all their chemicals. I cannot handle anything with those artificial sweeteners. Leaves a horrible aftertaste and I will still be gaging 1/2 hour after drinking one. Once asked a co-worker how he handled that after taste and he advised "you get used to it". Don't think I want to be drinking anything that you have to "get used to".

My wife and I both used to drink a lot of Diet Dr. Pepper. We noticed having problems with mental clarity. Sort of a "mental fog" which, because both of us experienced it at the same time, we suspected was caused by something we were eating or drinking. We quit eating or drinking anything with Aspartame in it and the mental fog lifted. That was 30 years ago and we haven't had any Aspartame since and have never experienced anything like that again.

in the past I drank a lot of Cola, maybe that's why I had dental problems at that time, put a tooth in a glass of cola and the cola will dissolve the tooth.
I now only drink Apple Juice.