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Way back when I was a teenager (I think the dinosaurs had just become extent) I remember my dad telling a story about one the neighborhood kids. One night he was just sitting on the front porch and saw one of the neighborhood kids sneaking around in the woods (he was actually heading home). Dad took out a shotgun and fired a couple shots into the air. The next day, the neighborhood kid shows up and asks my dad "I heard you shooting last night, what was you shooting at". Dad immediately responded "Just anything that moved". The kids eyes got big but he never responded.

Dad was well respected by all the kids in the neighborhood as he would fix their bikes (and later cars) and always giving a word of encouragement but they NEVER messed around his property because he would "shoot anything that moved". Once you can establish that reputation, word will spread.
 
they NEVER messed around his property because he would "shoot anything that moved". Once you can establish that reputation, word will spread.

My uncle had that reputation about his hunting land. I personally witnessed him going after some poachers with a rifle in one hand and a 1911 in the other. Everyone in the county and the surrounding counties knew about him. My cousin tried to emulate his father and got in trouble. He had to drop his charges against some poachers because the judge told him if he didn't he would be charged with attempted murder.
 
I think these signs are funny, but I have little use for them.

I try to maintain a "grey man" persona with regards to my prepping. I'm a little secretive about my guns, preps, and so on, as I don't want to get targeted by professional burglers.

With some strange, oddball exceptions that don't seem relevant to this conversation, I only have the guns to protect life . . . not property.

If a thief steals my TV and I gun him down in the process, I'll probably be exonerated in court . . . after spending $70,000.00 in legal fees on some bottom-feeding, predatory defense lawyer.

Note that I can replace the TV for a few hundred dollars, so do the math.

The gun is not to protect my pride, my masculinity, or my dignity. The purpose of the gun is not exercise some questionable, ambiguous "stand your ground" principle. The gun is for a mass-shooter when I'm at the synagogue, a Ted Bundy who wants to torture and kill my girlfriend, a pit bull that has flipped out and is mauling a child, euthanising a dog that I accidentally hit with my car, or a rabid raccoon that is staggering around in broad daylight.

Things can--for the most part--be replaced. I don't want to bankrupt myself by spending my life savings on a legal defense over an issue of "right vs. wrong" because of a television, my stamp collection, or a stereo . . . even if I'm in the right.

I hope no one thinks of me as a coward for making these points, but I tend to think in practical terms as I am--after all--an ex-paramedic.
 
I think these signs are funny, but I have little use for them.

I try to maintain a "grey man" persona with regards to my prepping. I'm a little secretive about my guns, preps, and so on, as I don't want to get targeted by professional burglers.

With some strange, oddball exceptions that don't seem relevant to this conversation, I only have the guns to protect life . . . not property.

If a thief steals my TV and I gun him down in the process, I'll probably be exonerated in court . . . after spending $70,000.00 in legal fees on some bottom-feeding, predatory defense lawyer.

Note that I can replace the TV for a few hundred dollars, so do the math.

The gun is not to protect my pride, my masculinity, or my dignity. The purpose of the gun is not exercise some questionable, ambiguous "stand your ground" principle. The gun is for a mass-shooter when I'm at the synagogue, a Ted Bundy who wants to torture and kill my girlfriend, a pit bull that has flipped out and is mauling a child, euthanising a dog that I accidentally hit with my car, or a rabid raccoon that is staggering around in broad daylight.

Things can--for the most part--be replaced. I don't want to bankrupt myself by spending my life savings on a legal defense over an issue of "right vs. wrong" because of a television, my stamp collection, or a stereo . . . even if I'm in the right.

I hope no one thinks of me as a coward for making these points, but I tend to think in practical terms as I am--after all--an ex-paramedic.
I agree I respect life as well. I don’t want it on my conscience that I killed someone over trying to steal food to feed his kid. I won’t say that I don’t want to protect my property, especially if shtf, but I would like to think I would always try to preserve another’s life.
 
40 plus years ago, I shot the tires out of a hit and run, drunk driver. Nothing happen, no legal problems, police were super cool. I would not do that today. California has certainly changed, since that incident.
I agree with you.

There are some exceptions to my "don't shoot over property" rule.

During Hurricane Andrew (I was a relief worker with Humana and the Red Cross), a family had a person with multiple sclerosis who was hooked up to a ventilator (via a tracheostomy) at home.

Scumbag looters broke into these peoples' home, and stole the ventilator. Because it was in the aftermath of a hurricane, 911 services weren't available.

In any case, a family member grabbed a lever-action deer rifle, chased the looters down, and confronted them over the ventilator.

The gist is that this person shot 2 of the 4 looters in order to retrieve the ventilator, which was then re-hooked up to the patient, who was now able to survive.

The law is very specific about confronting thieves with violent force to retake property that belongs to you, but I can't help but believe that this situation with the ventilator should be recognized as a specific exception.

I don't know how this case played out in the courts (or even if charges were brought up), but I think it's a sticky situation if one tries to reconcile the law with survival in this situation.

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PS: After further thought, I realize that I made a minor mistake when I wrote the post. The patient had Lou Gehrig's disease, and not multiple sclerosis. This doesn't change my main point, though.
 
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