gotta have caches

Squirtgunsquirter said:

You don't read as old.

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Thank you, I will take that as a compliment --- I Hope. . Old enough to be use Medicare. Old enough to remember when being on welfare was not something you bragged about. Out of wedlock babies were rare and certainly not a money making event. Just another opinionated old gas passing prepper.

I wish we lived closer.
I really need to bite the bullet, and attend a prepper Meetup here in town.

Squirtgunsquirter said:

I wish we lived closer.
I really need to bite the bullet, and attend a prepper Meetup here in town.

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I am very pleased you would like to meet up but even If I lived next door, not you or anybody else would not know I prepped. You appear to be a very intelligent person and in a purely social setting I would welcome the introduction. We each have to evaluate our circumstances but I am not a big fan of meeting local preppers. Here are just a few of MY reasons. 1) All talk and no action. By that I mean many will talk about storing food, ammo, getting physically fit (not me) training and so forth. But if you were to check their inventory, they will not have half the amount they claim. They will be physically out of shape (me) and will have ten million reasons they can't make that training session but REALLY wanted to go. 2) Now these same folks that are not ready and will never be ready, will give up your name and address in a heart beat to someone threatening them, They will trade info (your name and address) to hopefully save their butts. Heck they may even join with the marauders to find and attack all the members of the MAG. Next to Wally World, the MAG will be the only other place these folks will know that has food and supplies.

Now you work in a big city and that has its plus and minus. You can prep without your neighbors knowing, You can go to the public shooting range and stay invisible. No camo GHB but a plain black backpack computer bag, loaded with the stuff you need to get home. If you are urban, you must become the Gray Man, blend and disappear. My urban motto "out of sight -- out of mind". Rural folks already know each other and what each other does for life and entertainment. So Gray Man is useless. In that type of environment, they have knowledge of each other and how reliable or untrustworthy they each are and that will play a big factor in survival. The trailer trash down the road are likely to have a major accident as soon as the SHTF. What I am saying in my long winded way, is look to YOUR situation and then ask folks on the forum how they might address these problems. Now be prepared to first hear --MOVE OUT OF THE CITY --- then you will get some solid advice on how to possibility add some security to your situation. There is no one perfect answer. I know somebody that spent a several millions on a isolated hidden mountain retreat, only to be greeted by a couple of hunters the other day. No plan is fool proof. Just don't stop planning, one week worth of food is okay if the event only last 5 days. 3 Month worth of preps is enough if the event only lasts 6 weeks. Just keep working on your situation and keep asking questions, that is how we ALL learn.

We are moving. I blend in fine on the bus ride to the capitol.

On my ride back from work, it is impossible. The rare white guy still has a sideways hat, neck tattoo, saggy pants... You get the idea.

I like the bus, and so far no has bothered me.

I can talk to local preppers without any worries. This time next year, with any luck, my house will be mobile.

Squirtgunsquirter said:

We are moving. I blend in fine on the bus ride to the capitol.

On my ride back from work, it is impossible. The rare white guy still has a sideways hat, neck tattoo, saggy pants... You get the idea.

I like the bus, and so far no has bothered me.

I can talk to local preppers without any worries. This time next year, with any luck, my house will be mobile.

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Nope, I don't get the picture. I maybe a bit old and slow on this one. Why do you blend in going but not coming back? What can you do to blend in on the way back? I understand about the rare white guy but not the rest?

Now as for being mobile, outstanding but what do you hope to gain from meeting local preppers? If you plan to be mobile and bug out at the first sign of a SHTF event, then I don't see any value in exposing you and your Lady to other preppers. Why let anybody know you have supplies and ammo and weapons or anything worth stealing? If you really planned on staying and really insisted joining a MAG, then I could maybe see meeting some local preppers but you plan to bog out. I am lost here. Not preaching or criticizing just curious.

Hmm.

I'm on the bus now. I'll get back to this.

Ok.

I don't work a set schedule. I work a given number of jobs a day, and I need to modify it to stay in sync with other crews.
I always go to work at 5:30 am. Its the first bus of the day. Usually 3 other guys, who look like office workers. I typically wear like Dickies work pants and a polo. I blend in.

If I work until 5 pm, then the bus is full of folks getting off the 9 to 5, and I ride bus 11. It goes through the college campus. I still blend in.

If I get off at say, 2:30, the bus is full of people who just left Walmart or the liquer store. They don't have jobs that I can tell. It's bus 16, and it goes through the ghetto. I can't smoke at transfers, everyone asks for a smoke. Or bus fare. Or once, money to buy her kids something to drink, while she drank a Pepsi and ate cookies while asking me. Things like that. It's all dreadlocks and afros and gold chains and shouting. I fail to blend in. To blend in, I would need to be black, or a white who has been subsumed by black culture.

As to the other, I don't tell anyone the location of the BOL. The stuff I have here is just to get me there. I would mostly be interested in meeting local preppers to barter work for access to private land to hunt, or train on. Never know if you don't try. If SdoesntHTF before I move to SLC, I will collect my rifles and ammo and smallish amount of food stores when I go. No harm no foul. I would have done the work on the farm anyway. It's not just about prepping.

Squirtgunsquirter said:

Ok.

I don't work a set schedule. I work a given number of jobs a day, and I need to modify it to stay in sync with other crews.
I always go to work at 5:30 am. Its the first bus of the day. Usually 3 other guys, who look like office workers. I typically wear like Dickies work pants and a polo. I blend in.

If I work until 5 pm, then the bus is full of folks getting off the 9 to 5, and I ride bus 11. It goes through the college campus. I still blend in.

If I get off at say, 2:30, the bus is full of people who just left Walmart or the liquer store. They don't have jobs that I can tell. It's bus 16, and it goes through the ghetto. I can't smoke at transfers, everyone asks for a smoke. Or bus fare. Or once, money to buy her kids something to drink, while she drank a Pepsi and ate cookies while asking me. Things like that. It's all dreadlocks and afros and gold chains and shouting. I fail to blend in. To blend in, I would need to be black, or a white who has been subsumed by black culture.

As to the other, I don't tell anyone the location of the BOL. The stuff I have here is just to get me there. I would mostly be interested in meeting local preppers to barter work for access to private land to hunt, or train on. Never know if you don't try. If SdoesntHTF before I move to SLC, I will collect my rifles and ammo and smallish amount of food stores when I go. No harm no foul. I would have done the work on the farm anyway. It's not just about prepping.

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@Squirtgunsquirter Thank you for the response. My very first thought was quit riding the 2:30 bus. You can't blend in and it goes through the absolutely worst area YOU could travel through. Your life and health is worth more than the few hours you would have to wait for the 9 to 5 bus. How far behind (economically) would a trip to the nearest hospital E.R. put you? Maybe walk between bus stops on the 9 to 5 route, kill some time and build endurance. It would also help you learn what is in the route and what may help you if S did HTF. How many food places, sporting good stores,water sources, places to take shelter in bad weather. The point I am making, don't risk your white hide to save a few hours. Walk the route until the good bus comes. You will have better lung capacity (from a old long time smokers -- quit smoking -- cost too damn much and is easy for non smokers to smell you -- bad OPSEC), know what and where you can find needed things along the route and you have improved your survival chances. The smoking is not intended as a lecture. I still smoke if I am going to drive a long distance - it save so many lives of stupid drivers. But the cost has gotten astronomical and I can buy a lot of ammo for the price of a carton of smokes. About 400 rounds of 62 grain 223 soft point. I am cheap, I want the ammo.

Now as for the local preppers just be very careful and watch your six. Nothing ventured nothing gained is not quite accurate. Any direct interaction with unknown folks has a risk factor. I like your posts, so guard your backside. OPSEC at all times. I need you young whippersnappers to keep me on my toes. (old timer saying -- when folks actually used whips).

I appreciate your concern.

Quitting smoking is a must. Your not the only one pushing for that.

There's another, doable but shitty option. I set my own hours. When I started, the company owner literally said " I don't want to talk to you, or deal with your job. That's the sprinter van, your stuff is there. Don't get behind, and it's your baby". Lol. It's pretty fun.

So I can, to an extent, make my own work. I can work with other crews. I can do inventory. Pretty much whatever I want.

So I could work 10 hours every day, ride the 5 o'clock bus, and make a pile more money on the overtime. I even asked, and they are fine with it. In fact, they gave me raise right after.

But it's rough. It's a physical job. Including the bus rides, that's a 13 hour day, every day.

I don't know. I'll burn out.

@Squirtgunsquirter You know yourself, so you got to make the call on the transportation and work schedule.

If it helps, every time I want to buy a pack of smokes, I figured out what else it would buy (ammo, precision trigger, bipod, etc.) I picked out fun things I wanted and that really helped motivate me. Improved health or really long term savings was not any help but new goodies for my firearm hobby (thats what wife calls it) and that was a motivator. I am just about to order 1,000 rounds of 223 ammo + a new 12 ga , all saved from the smoking budget. Since I was a pack a day smoker, it does add up fairly quickly. just my incentive. may not work for others. No past smoker finger pointing, just a cheap skate, that like guns and ammo more than cigs. and can't afford both. The price of firearms keeps going up and my want list keeps growing. If I won the lotto I wold still end up broke but with one heck of an arsenal. LOL.

I don't ride public transport, too many bad types too many surfaces for diseases to linger, if I cant go in my own vehicle I don't go there, I have so many bits and pieces of prepper stuff to pick up, from cans to blue plastic barrels I couldn't be a prepper if I had to rely on public transport. public transport in my location (rural) is almost non existent and takes too long, to live here people HAVE to have a vehicle, its not a luxury its a necessity.