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ya its funny how some "fictional" movies/books turn up to be quite truthful!

Isn't it possible that this is a plot to desensitize people to what is happening so that when it happens, people would not panic that much and say "I saw that in a movie and let's do what the protagonist did... blah blah blah"

What do you think? Am not trying to hatch a Conspiracy Theory but ... :oops:
 
Anthropogenic hazards or man-made hazards can come to fruition in the form of a man-made disaster. In this case, "anthropogenic" means threats having an element of human intent, negligence, or error; or involving a failure of a man-made system. This is opposed to natural disasters resulting from natural hazards (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., 2012).
Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.
 
Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.

it was much worse than that, at the beginning of the Revolutionary war, only about 5% of the population supported the idea of separating from England, much less was willing to kill or die for it.
 
Cyber Attack on United States infrastructure is a Huge concern. The US participated in melting down Iran's nuclear program and setting in back several years. Now Obama is going to finance Iran's nuclear bomb. North Korea has nothing to lose as they are not dependent on the the Internet or inter connected by electronics. Any third world country or independent hacker out to make a statement may attack the non secured electrical grid of the United States. Shocking news- The federal government has NO plan to care for multiple states and 10's of millions of citizens if we lose power for over 5 days or lose the very large transformers! Just ask your local Office of Emergency Management what they are prepared to do beyond 5 days for your entire area
 
Concerning the people and the Revolutionary War. Take a good look at the history of it. Many colonists were isolated, there wasn't instant access to information. Also, think of the average person living back then. Do you really think they cared about "taxation without representation"? They cared about staying alive, feeding their family. Only the landed gentry and few business people really cared (the signers of the declaration were not commoners). Before us, freedom and liberty were really unheard of, heck, some of them were already living free- off the grid, away from others, not bothering with government at all. It wasn't until the war actually started that all the writing we read took place- Common Sense, and other writings. It must have been extremely difficult getting people to leave their land march, freeze, kill, die for ideals back then.
 
If WE can have nukes ( We being UK / US/ France/ Russia/ India/Pakistan/ North Korea and Israel how can we object to any other nation wanting parity? Iran fears Saudi Arabia both seek nuclear weapons, Look back and see WHO has started the most wars, Look and see who has USED nukes in anger.

just because some idiot Islamic clerics rant and rave about destroying the west does not mean those countries want to do that any more than say the Gent in the threads above (Warriorhealer) who expresses a desire to nuke Iran speaks for the US.

Not that many years ago I read of many American folk of various outlooks saying " We in the west should nuke all countries that harbour terrorists" I pointed out that from the 1960s to the 1990s The US had willingly aided, harboured and funded IRA terrorists and Spanish ETA terrorists openly in places like Boston, Indeed in NYC one St Pats day parade the good people of that city had wanted convicted IRA bombers leading the parade. So using that analogy should the UK have turned NYC and Boston into glass? No of course not ( I can see lots of GOP supporters shouting YES, stop it :) )
 
If WE can have nukes ( We being UK / US/ France/ Russia/ India/Pakistan/ North Korea and Israel how can we object to any other nation wanting parity? Iran fears Saudi Arabia both seek nuclear weapons, Look back and see WHO has started the most wars, Look and see who has USED nukes in anger.

just because some idiot Islamic clerics rant and rave about destroying the west does not mean those countries want to do that any more than say the Gent in the threads above (Warriorhealer) who expresses a desire to nuke Iran speaks for the US.

Not that many years ago I read of many American folk of various outlooks saying " We in the west should nuke all countries that harbour terrorists" I pointed out that from the 1960s to the 1990s The US had willingly aided, harboured and funded IRA terrorists and Spanish ETA terrorists openly in places like Boston, Indeed in NYC one St Pats day parade the good people of that city had wanted convicted IRA bombers leading the parade. So using that analogy should the UK have turned NYC and Boston into glass? No of course not ( I can see lots of GOP supporters shouting YES, stop it :) )

Ok Northern Raider, I'm going to squash this right now before this comes to more back and forth than it was meant to. Honestly I was having a bit of fun with the phrase. Having seen war, I have no wish to see devastation like that. I don't disagree that governments pick sides and "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" depend on who's saying what. I study my history, as I'm sure you do as well.
 
Ok Northern Raider, I'm going to squash this right now before this comes to more back and forth than it was meant to. Honestly I was having a bit of fun with the phrase. Having seen war, I have no wish to see devastation like that. I don't disagree that governments pick sides and "freedom fighter" and "terrorist" depend on who's saying what. I study my history, as I'm sure you do as well.

Ooops my bad WH, I DID read your post as tongue in cheek but did not emphasise my response as also being light hearted, sorry bout that, I cannot actually imagine any sane prepper wanting to use nukes on anything................................ cept perhaps Texans on nuking Kalifornia :)

did I just use SANE, PREPPER and Texans in the same sentence !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So, like a terrorist attack or a plant meltdown because Homer fell asleep? Makes sense to me. Not sure of everyone else's take on this. I think humans as a whole are a good hearted and well-intentioned bunch. Still, I do think that it's most likely going to be a man made disaster that send us(My family) out to the wilds. We live near DC, so obviously the never-ending threat of terrorism looms, as does the overly dense populace, which makes it more likely that one of us will "Screw the pooch" and cause some unbelievable crisis by accident. Thoughts?
I haven't been on the forums for a while but---has anyone thought of--failure of religion. What happens if the Pope and religions in general are shown wrong. Would it cause an eventual societal catastrophe. If religion fails so also will central government, as both do the same which is control the masses. Religion and Civil governments exist for the same purpose---to control people, so then, both are governments. Neither can govern differently then the other as each must use the same criteria to govern. What thinketh ye.
 
Look and see who has USED nukes in anger.


,,,Japan brought it on themselves ,I have no remorse for them,,,,Pearl Harbor,the fighting to the last man,the Kama Kazi attacks their treatment of US prisoners,during that WW2 they were animals and had to be dealt with,,,,,,,


you reap what you sow
 
I think peoplew need to talk about HAARP more, its not fake and i do beleive it was used in the earthquakes in haiti and japan. we as humans are destroying this planet, and all of the most powerful people in the world really dont give a shit.
Powerful means having money, having money means that they think they can escape from it somehow. What do they care if the lesser fortunate kick off? I wonder what would happen to the world if there was an incurable and fatal disease that only the richest of the rich could catch. Better yet all evil people. Just a good day to daydream about such things. raining all day here.
 
I haven't been on the forums for a while but---has anyone thought of--failure of religion. What happens if the Pope and religions in general are shown wrong. Would it cause an eventual societal catastrophe. If religion fails so also will central government, as both do the same which is control the masses. Religion and Civil governments exist for the same purpose---to control people, so then, both are governments. Neither can govern differently then the other as each must use the same criteria to govern. What thinketh ye.
I thinketh that if I thought there was no God and no Hell, then my only consequence for doing evil is what I put on myself or what I may have to endure here on earth. Therefore I whilst have a more sinful life. Bring on "The Purge".
 
,,,Japan brought it on themselves ,I have no remorse for them,,,,Pearl Harbor,the fighting to the last man,the Kama Kazi attacks their treatment of US prisoners,during that WW2 they were animals and had to be dealt with,,,,,,,


you reap what you sow
I knew a lady and 50 years after Pearl she still HATED the Japanese and made no qualms about it. Of course her husband was in the Navy. Some things can never be forgiven by man.
 
Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.
Silent majority as usual. SNAFU
 
,,,Japan brought it on themselves ,I have no remorse for them,,,,Pearl Harbor,the fighting to the last man,the Kama Kazi attacks their treatment of US prisoners,during that WW2 they were animals and had to be dealt with,,,,,,,


you reap what you sow
Grandpa always said that Truman saved their lives. Evil must be annihilated. collateral damage expected and very sad.
 
Isn't it possible that this is a plot to desensitize people to what is happening so that when it happens, people would not panic that much and say "I saw that in a movie and let's do what the protagonist did... blah blah blah"

What do you think? Am not trying to hatch a Conspiracy Theory but ... :oops:
OR, the author heard the same story we did, but, being an author, decided it would make a great plot line? I don't think there's a way to desensitize any disaster to those involved in one.
 
Last night on FOX news show "Hannity," Mark Levine, author of "The Liberty Amendments: Restoring The American Republic," "Ameritopia," "Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto" and other political books stated that only 30% of Americans fought in the Revolutionary War. That 70% buried their heads in the sand and pretended nothing was happening. They are doing the same today and it is up to the 20-30% of us who are willing and able to do something about it to start pressing for change in whatever form we have to do so.

It shocked me to see this conservative man on tv essentially calling for war.
Well, if you think about it, what did the common people have to win in this war? Do you think most cared about "Taxation without representation" when they had troubles just getting the crops in and sold, or getting by on what skills they had? The slaves sure didn't gain anything. Were any of the signers of the Declaration blue collar? Also, news travelled rather slow, and the frontier was settled by people wanting to get away from the coast. I'm sure not too many cared about the fate of the British. How did things change for the people after the Revolutionary War? The animals still needed tending, now with more widows then before, the blacksmith still had to produce his wares. Then, our great government decided that the men who fought the war didn't need to get paid. That money was shifted to repaying the French for their help. (As they were already fighting the British, I'm sure it wasn't a hard push to get them to help us)

Also, calling for change isn't necessarily a call for war. Most of any violence will come from resisting the change, as opposed to those doing the change. and sometimes it does.
 

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